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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: V153 on February 11, 2012, 05:33:51 PM
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Well I brought home a CVX16 today but it wasn't the one I'd planned on. Wouldya believe that lil peckerhead in Sarasota bailed at the last minute? Sob!
So, not to be discouraged. I took a drive all the freakin way to Brooksville & couldn't resist bringing this lil gem home. '81 CVX16 w/'83 140 Johnson crossflow on a massive Escort galvanized trailer w/brakes. Boats rough, no interior. Though someone 'replaced' the floor awhile back, been sitting in the weeds for God knows how long. Fenders are falling off the trailer but otherwise it's in purty good shape.
Now for the dealmaker: Don't think the motor's ever seen saltwater. Super clean. Got about 115-120 per hole. Pulled the carb bowl drains, blew some fresh gas through the turpentine & got her running. Not good but okay.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/BrooksvilleCarlson.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/BrooksvilleCarlson1.jpg)
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Congratulations Doug. Godspeed in getting the boat and motor up to your standards.
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Looks like its got a 'Metric' style windshield on it?
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Looks like its got a 'Metric' style windshield on it?
Good eye Doran! After checking "the years" I'm purty sure it's a C-500?
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Even better! I love the Metric's!
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Even better! I love the Metric's!
Wanna buy it!? Killer trailer. Sorry no motor ...
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Sure. Free delivery?
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I was about to mention that it looks like a metric series. The rounded over bow is the key to their look. I've seen one metric in person in Houston.
Looks like a great score on the motor. I'd like either a 130, 140 or 150 for mine. I'm about to list my 88 SPL for sale locally so I can start my motor fund. Only issue around here is people destroy motors and then want top dollar for them. I stopped by some guys house near my home that has four V4's from the '90s under a metal cover. 112 spl, 115 and two 130's. He wouldn't budge on any of them. Guess what? He doesn't even own a boat anymore.
Let us know how the motor turns out.
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Don't cut that one (Metric) up Doug !
That one's worth saving ....
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Don't cut that one (Metric) up Doug !
That one's worth saving ....
Nope. Won't cut this one up Gregg, promise. Dunno how to use a metric sawsall anyway ...
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So you haven't really said much about the hull...its is completely shot?
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Florida is hard on boats ...
Bet the woods bad or completely gone !
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81metric-01.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81metric-02.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81metric-04.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81metric-03.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/82metric.jpg)
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So you haven't really said much about the hull...its is completely shot?
Nah it's not junk Doran but the floor & center stringer are rotten. Transom shows no exterior signs of damage but you know it's probly soggy too.
Besides being filthy the hull's not too bad 'cept for the "repair" someone did on the bow. Not quite sure yet whether he sanded all the flake off, or painted over it?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonTransom1.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonTransom.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonBow.jpg)
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Yeah, someone tried to 'fix' that gel didn't they...
Very cool little boat you have there Doug.
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I know, ya could move the dash back about 3' and have a neat little racer.
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Well here's the latest: Me'n my lil bro did the old trailer switcharoo earlier. As you can see it needs some dialing in. Not entirely sure it's gonna work tbh. The pad is not cooperating with the rollers. Wants to keep sliding off to one side or the other. I'll figger something out but boy it was a real pita getting that pig halfway plumb?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/TrailerSwap.jpg)
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"New" floor, or, how not to install a new floor. Guy just laid the wood, sank some drywall screws haphazardly into the center stringer, and started slinging cloth. Glass is almost completely delaminated & ply is soaking wet. Transom's rotten in the bilgewell too. Aie aie aie ... Here we go again.
On the bright side me'n a buddy just got done yankin the carbs & he's gonna go through em for me. WooHoo!
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonFloor.jpg)
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Ya thinkin' about fixin' her up Doug ?
Much as I like G/C's ... That one's gonna cost ya to get her lookin' good ...
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I still like that boat. Good colors...(well, used to be good colors)...nice little runabout.
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Ahh it's only money Gregg. Plus I'm skeert y'all will disown me, or worse, if'n I chop it up? Well that and I think it's a unique model.
It's 5 meters long btw, 500 centimeters.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonFloor1.jpg)
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ATTA BOY DOUGY ...
You the MAN !
edit ...
guess your gonna do it ....
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/dougsYoMod.jpg)
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guess your gonna do it ....
Well I'm gonna gut it least, then reassess the 'situation' ...?
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"Sunset Red" was a purty color ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/OrigColor.jpg)
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Sure was.
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Doug
Want Jeff & me to come down and shine her up for ya ?
Red Metric .... Ya gotta save her !
TO COOL ! ! !
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Geeze! Thought I was buying a junk CVX16 for the motor. Now I'm doomed to restoring a C-500. How do I get myself into this kinda crap anyway? Sigh ...
You'n Jeff are welcome anytime Gregg, I'll supply refreshments, but boy I dunno. Better have a magic wand in yer polishing bag of tricks? She's purty far gone. And don't fergit about the 'repair' on the bow:
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonBow.jpg)
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" And don't fergit about the 'repair' on the bow "
OH YA ...
Forgot about that .....
Barb's gonna drop her boat off so we can do it over the summer, and some test drivin' of course ...
Your next ....
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It is nice that the last guy put in the quick remove floor, perhaps some 303 would revive that gel...................I couldn't resist. Looks like a good score and worth a redo.
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It is nice that the last guy put in the quick remove floor
Thanks RP. Ya I thought that was mighty white of the PO too. Removal tip: Simply grind through the glass where you can see it ain't stuck to nuthin ...?
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worth a redo
Yeah ... I know. I know! Why did this pos have to be such a rarity?!
Oh well the good news is there ain't anywhere near as much work involved restringing one of these vs, say, a V153? Transom's simpler too. But to do it right I'm gonna have to pop the top.
Don't hold yer breath y'all this resto might take awhile. Got some other business to attend to first. But I promise to make slow'n steady progress ...
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I'm in the same boat ( HA HA ) as you Doug.
Mine will need some work ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/76%20CV16%20blue/2.jpg)
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Ya but yours is a lot better looking? Yo Gregg. If'n you will. Paint scheme for '81 85hp Crossflow ...?
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Honestly...that faded silver/red color isn't horrible...too bad the PO didn't just leave it alone.
That would have made a great project for my son and I, I'm a bit bummed you're not closer.
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too bad the PO didn't just leave it alone
Tell me about it ... According to the po the 2po ran into a jetski. Hmm, doesn't that scenario usually go the other way around?
Ah well. Doran when you'n your son get here, you get here. Boat ain't goin nowhere. Gotta trailer that'll hold 2 or 3 of em for sale cheap too ...?
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Y'know the more I study the bow the more I think it has a Corinthian look to it ...?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CorinthianLeatherCordoba.jpg)
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Oops! Wrong pic ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CORINTHIAN.jpg)
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LOOK! Isn't that Ricardo Montaiban at the helm?
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Remember to leave enough of the old material so's ya kin set the new one on top of it ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonFloorReplacementTip.jpg)
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Flake might come back a lil, but what am I gonna do about the other side ...?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonBowFlake.jpg)
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Artifact:
Ever try to pull start one of thes pigs? It is possible but trust me you'll be hurtin later.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonArtifact.jpg)
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I got one of those with my '83 Merc 115. It's useless if you ask me. I'll damn near break the rope before I could any spin out of the engine, and forget about trying to spin it fast enough when cold to get it to fire.
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Oh btw, when choosing a new floor material I recommend 3/8" 3 ply BS. Don't bother laminating either side. Aie Carumba ...!
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonFloor2.jpg)
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1981 j/E colors ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81Evinrude140-90.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81Johnson140.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81Johnson11590.jpg)
1982 Evinrude colors ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/82Evinrude140-90.jpg)
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Yeah, what do you do beside re-gel the whole thing?
I supposed you could try to sand through it? Dunno...gonna have to re-gel it anyway?!?
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Not GOOD ....
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I feel your, er, my pain. I'm leaning toward flat black primer for starters, with a green marker 9 on the foredeck ...?
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IMHO ...
Favorite years are the 1993 & 1994 Evinrudes colors ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/93Evinrude140.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/93Evinrude140-120.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/93Evinrude115-90.jpg)
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Sorry Doug...I'm laughing with you...at least they used a saw. My 'Git r done' floor was just a 4x8 sheet thrown on top of the exposed stringers...
I feel your pain! How are the stringers? Mush?
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-umEKaV9ih74/SqQvH1g4NVI/AAAAAAAAHEk/h9JdHhgIb-0/s640/P9060070.JPG)
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Just saw the picts...(tough on my phone)...yikes...they just scabbed on that center 2x4 didn't they...
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Yo Gregg. Thanks! That's the look I'm after. '81 to match the boat(s) year
Heck I might even be able to do that myself. I'm a purty good pianter ...
edit. Gotta higher res scan of the pic?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81Johnson11590.jpg)
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yer all wrong. '58 was the year to have
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh181/50sflash/DSC00217.jpg)
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I agree with Hyperacme, but I like those colors on a Merc!!
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DanR.
The 1993 -94 Evinrude color was a very dark blue, almost looks black in picture.
Doug
No I don't, but will find you one in a min. or two ...
Think you could get them (stickers) on eBay for about $50.
Jerry
All time favorite Johnson motor colors was the 1979 - 80 Stinger ...
Wih the Fat 50 second ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/000_0009-10.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/000_0012-4.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/79Stinger-2.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/80Stinger-2.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/Fat50BigJohnson.jpg)
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1981 Johnson decals ...
http://www.cutnupvinyl.com/catalog/i74.html
http://webhosting.web.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.cutnupvinyl.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/graphi1forweb.jpg&target=tlx_new&title=Johnson Outboard Hood Decals V4 1981 90 hp
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/graphi1forweb.jpg)
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Yo Gregg. Thanks! That's the look I'm after. '81 to match the boat(s) year
Heck I might even be able to do that myself. I'm a purty good pianter ...
edit. Gotta higher res scan of the pic?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/81Johnson11590.jpg)
Doug heres the color your new motor needs to be heh heh heh
(http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp282/GT_160/theboat021-2.jpg)
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That might be my old Stinger if it was at Sellner's
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh181/50sflash/0809_002.jpg)
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Doug heres the color your new motor needs to be heh heh heh
I'm assuming you mean yellow? Nah, no thanks ...
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1981 Johnson decals
Suweet. Thanks for the link Gregg!
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How about gray Doug ?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/76%20CV16%20blue/DSCN0330.jpg)
Jerry
Found Stinger picture on internet about two years ago ...
Not sure who's motor it is ...
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How about gray Doug ?
Ehh, close enough Gregg. But only cuz we're buddies ...
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Nice to know that even with your BIG Johnson were still buddys ...
That just don't sound quite right ....LOL
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That's the problem with Johnson motors. Pretty much anything you say about them sounds dirty!
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I use to have a small Johnson ...
YA ... I better stick with Merc's ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/DSCF1640.jpg)
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Gawd what a beautiful boat this musta been new ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CarlsonUnderTeak.jpg)
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Gawd what a beautiful boat this musta been new ...
Yeah, that was a very nice color...too bad to see it in such bad shape.
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Hows about Mopar Blue?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/IMG_3865.jpg)
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153.......Take off the neck brace that two right side ups in a row!!!!! YAAAAAA
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Gawd what a beautiful boat this musta been new ...
Yeah, that was a very nice color...too bad to see it in such bad shape.
Ya breaks your heart. Think the finish is bad y'oughta see the stringers/transom. Or lack thereof ... On the bright side stringers can be repaired, But that gel/flake is effed!
Ah well only got six hunnert into the package & believe I've got the oversized trailer sold for $450. Guy's 'posed to come over tomorrow morning?
Yo RP. I only see one ...?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/MegaTrailer.jpg)
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I like the the Black Primer Idea........thats how my 34 is hittin the road. 153....I landed one right on the vintage ad thread but then the next one wasn't there at all?????? Maybe I should get everyones mailing address and just mail everyone little 4 inch square magazines.LOL .................Then again one in a row is pretty good for me!
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Rather than put myself through the tedious & time consuming process, I've decided to let the state name her for me. Reg# is FL 0802 ED. Boat's name is Edna. 'Ed' for short. Figger I'll save a couple bucks on lettering this way ...?
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Lil pressure washing & wet sanding works wonders don't it? Didn't make as much headway in the bow as I wanted due to the angry wasps. Nuked the nest but there were a few stragglers who were a lil po'd at suddenly being homeless.
Filled a garbage can with foam but still got a ways to go.
Made some adjustments to the trailer & got the boat positioned a lil better. Moved the bow stop about 9" fwd & put the jack on the side it should be. Bunks still need a little tweaking, bolts are marinating in PB Blaster. Might work after all but still have my doubts.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/PressureWash.jpg)
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Dash:
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/Dash.jpg)
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Foam
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Winch
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/WinchTongueJack.jpg)
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Always get a kick out of the 150lb per person ratio ...?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/GlastronHINPlate001.jpg)
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Didn't the Coast Guard say they were adjusting the weight/person ratio recently?
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Doug, you working fast!... lookin much better.
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(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/GlastronHINPlate001.jpg)
Do I have to pay for 2 seats?
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If'n ya weigh over 150lbs you do. But honestly that's a kinda grey area Jerry, since the boat has no seats in it at the moment. I will consult with the elders ...
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All's y'alls need is a 2x4 and some drywall screws.
Was yanking on the stringer & couldn't figure out why it wouldn't just lift out. Didn't see any signs of it being glued in. Finally figured out the knucklehead'd sunk a few drywall screws through the roving on either side to 'secure' the new stringer ...
They live amongst us.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/RedneckStringer.jpg)
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(They live amongst us)
Be afraid , very afraid .
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My mechanic Bobby Beer (his real name) just stopped over & we dropped the lower unit. Piece of cake. I had the bolts loose already & that thing dropped outa there slicker than whale snot. Gonna change the lube'n install a new water pump kit. Says he's got the carbs done. Want's to barter some cushion canvas work on his boat too. WooHoo!
Bobby Beer, not to be confused with Billy Beer, is a great ole OMC mechanic & real piece of work. I've lived in the south most of my life but that man is the slowest talker I've ever met.
Example of phone conversation:
Me, answering) Hi Bob how're ya makin out?
Him) .......Well.......................................okay...........................got the carbs back together........
Me) Awesome! When do ya wanna yank the gearcase?
Him) ..............Well .............................guess I could swing by..........in a minute.....
Me) Great! I'll be here.
Him) .........Well................................okay....................see ya......................
Aie carumba, but he really knows his stuff.
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Hey whuddy'all think about painting it the same color as my lil truck? Not all that far off actually ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/TruckColor.jpg)
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Color look's pretty close ...
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Go for it, but may I suggest paint the trailer too so you have a matched set ;D
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Hey whuddy'all think about painting it the same color as my lil truck? Not all that far off actually ...
That would look great - IMO :o
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Thanks Jim. Found the perfect place for the ashtray btw ...
Some mo foam removal. Best tool ever is a sawzall with a long pruning blade.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/Foam1.jpg)
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Feast yer eyes on this baby. Haven't even cleaned it yet!
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CleanMid.jpg)
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Meet my new OMC trim cylinder tool: AKA Dewalt angle grinder wrench. Fits poifectly! Heh heh heh
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/TrimWrench.jpg)
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Sand that little girl down smooth, get this flake, mix it up with some clear gel and Shoot that baby.
http://www.rothmetalflake.com/flake/monster/ruinedretinared.html (http://www.rothmetalflake.com/flake/monster/ruinedretinared.html)
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Thanks for the link Red. Looks like some purty fur out stuff?
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Figgered out why the trim quit working all of a sudden. Think this might have something to do with it ...?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/RelayBox.jpg)
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Finally managed to pry the wheel off & remove the instrument panel. Purty cheesy if'n ya ask me? Tell you one thing, that stapler needs to switch to decaf ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/InstrumentPanel.jpg)
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Just about got it all out. More foam out too.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/MoFlo.jpg)
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This one's put together a lil different than a V153. Uses flathead screws in the larger holes. Heads are the same size as holes so they don't actually anchor the deck to the hull. Just keep it from moving around when installing the rubrail I reckon?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/DeckAttch.jpg)
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I guess I didn't realize you were going to split the hull. Assuming its for the transom?
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I guess I didn't realize you were going to split the hull. Assuming its for the transom?
You didn't realize it?! Heck I thought I was buying a motor with a junk CV or CVX16 attatched. Now my peers have me restoring a C500. Bastards!
Ya transom's like granola & the only way to replace it correctly is pop the top. I can assure you I'm not looking forward to the job ...
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Ya know ya wanna restore it Doug
... LOL
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Seems like you gonna be short a motor again when the rebuild is done....................You better make sure the next motor comes on a Starcraft or somethin' or this could go on again! LOL
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Ya know ya wanna restore it Doug
... LOL
Yeah, I'm already having nightmares about it ...
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Seems like you gonna be short a motor again when the rebuild is done....................You better make sure the next motor comes on a Starcraft or somethin' or this could go on again! LOL
Never been "short a motor", just temporarily outa stock ...?
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Proving to be a real pita. Free on both sides 'cept for the area of the 'repair' on the stb side. As you can see it's cracking along the repair lines. Fraid to beat on it any harder?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/CrowNo.jpg)
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Got po'd trying to seperate the deck so changed tack ...
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/BowTank1.jpg)
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Reads: "Metric Front"
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/MetricFrontPanel.jpg)
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See the blade in the sawsall to your left? Kicks butt for removing glued down carpet. Reckon it'd work good on vinyl flooring too?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/BowTank.jpg)
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Ain't seen one'a these in awhile?
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/PullTab.jpg)
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Nice one Doug ....
Gonna restore it ?
... LOL
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Just think, if you find another 49 you'll have enough for a necklace! ;D
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Just think, if you find another 49 you'll have enough for a necklace! ;D
Heh heh heh
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I've got a whole box of 50 7-Up cans with those...turn them around to the back...and you get Uncle Sam's face with all 50 states...
I should dump those...worthless collector's thing from '76.
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Put them on E-Bay. People buy anything.
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WooHoo! $400 cash. YeeHaw!!! Brings me down to $200 invested in the C500 & 140. Speaking of the 140, me'n Bobby Beer have a 1:30 appt on sat to hang the carbs'n gearcase back on. Looking forward. But it's going to be a kinda melancholy event for me cuz I know it's the last time the motor is gonna look that good. To my eternal shame, I will be sentencing it to a slow & painful death by baptizing it in salt water.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/MegaTrailer-1.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/Hyperacme/CGOAmn/MegaTrailer1.jpg)
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Your almost making money on the deal !
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Salt water is not that bad if you follow a strict habit of running it on the muffs asap and washing the motor down after each trip with soap and water and keep it waxed. I have several friends that use bay boats in nothing but salt water and they keep up with the cleaning as I mentioned and their motors look like new. Change the anodes every year and you'll get many years out of it and it will still look great. Also, there is a product called Salt-away that neutralizes the salt left behind in all the little passages. I know some people that use this as well as a anti-corrosion spray that is applied to the under the cowl to protect the block, heads, carb bodies, etc.
If that's too much, hit the wand style car wash on the way home from the launch and wash down the entire rig. Trailer axle, tongue, motor, etc. Wash it all down and when it's dry, apply a coat of quality wax to the entire outboard.
I want that 140 on my CVX 16. I can't find one in good condition around here.
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Salt water not that bad if you follow a strict habit of running it on the muffs asap and washing the motor down after each trip with soap and water and keep it waxed
Yeah that's all well'n good unless you live in an area where the salt content is very high. Like here. You can flush it all you want with freshwater afterward but when yer running it damage is being done.
We're fortunate enough to have a rinsedown station at our lil ramp. I flush my motor & rinse the boat'n trailer religiously. But sh$t still happens.
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Your almost making money on the deal !
Hmm, now let's see. Paid $800 for the Baja, sold the motor for $350 and the trailer for $100. So I got $350 into the Baja.
Paid $600 for the Carlson, just sold the oversized trailer for $400. That means $200 invested in the Carlson & 140 Johnson.
So that would leave us with $550 invested in both boats. Discounting time & labor, physical injury, mental cruelty, etc ...
Cardinal rule of boating is if'n you're hopin to "make" money on a boat? Yer effed! Ain't gonna happen. Less'n yer real good at every aspect.
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Don't know about damaging them when you're running them in salt water but many friends have been running their motors in sw for 6, 8, 10 years without a single issue. If you're getting 10 or more years out of a motor that is constantly run in sw then that's not bad. As far as I remember from chemistry is that salt water will not do it's damage until the air dries it out. That's when the corrosion starts it's dirty little work. Flush it after every run that day and you'll be sure to get many years of life out of these motors.
You're doing great on your boat deals. Heck, that 140 in it's current condition, running sound would fetch about $1500 in my area. I just sold my '96 Evinrude SPL 88 hp to a guy with a party barge whose 90 croaked. We hung it on the back and he handed me $2200 cash. I paid $3200 for the boat it came on. Salvaged the aluminum hull at a recycle center (after that highway crash I had) for $550. Sold the trailer for $275. Sold the tank, two seats, gauges and various other items for $300 and received $3200 from the insurance company.
Had about $4500 invested after repairs and upgrades and got $6525 back on it. Have $3100 in the CVX including the purchase, engine work, new wiring, switches and gauges. Buffer and supplies to bring the finish back. New tires and bearings. New floor, carpet, ski pylon and future new seats. I know I could get $3000 to $3500 for it easily around here. So, I'm sitting at approx $1000 out of pocket right now on the CVX.
But, I'd never sell it. My plan is to give it to my nephew on his 21st birthday. He loves that boat. I know I'll have something else in the garage within the next 6 years.
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For what it's worth my origional plan was to give the V153 to my niece in a couple years. We all know how that worked out ... Sigh
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Don't know about damaging them when you're running them in salt water but many friends have been running their motors in sw for 6, 8, 10 years without a single issue. If you're getting 10 or more years out of a motor that is constantly run in sw then that's not bad. ...
My 1992 Johnson has spent its entire life alternating between salt water (Puget Sound) and fresh water (local lakes & rivers). No problems. Granted it is only in the water when it is being used (no storing on the water) and it is flushed & washed religiously after every outing.
That and the fact I get intoxicated by the smell of 2-cycle and the sound of an unmuffled boat motor running in the driveway. ;D
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Not too shabby ...? Recycled the ss deck screws that held the V153 floor down to put it together. I'm Green!
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Lookin' good Doug! Reduce reuse recycle!
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That and the fact I get intoxicated by the smell of 2-cycle and the sound of an unmuffled boat motor running in the driveway
You'n me both, plus it pisses the neighbors off ...
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Well me'n Bobby Beer got the carbs'n gearcase back on. Went back together smoothly. Ran okay but the dang fuel connector @ the motor was leaking like a sieve. neither one of us had one in stock. Sheeit!! Oh well we'll get her breathing'n post some pics tomorrow.
Plan to yank the 90 off'n the Baja tomorrow as well. Wish me luck ...?
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You're really tearing into that "donor" boat Doug.
So I've had some trouble following.
Did the Baja go on your old 153 trailer? I dont remember. CRS
If so, what trailer is under the metric now?
Is the E90 going on the metric?
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Hee hee hoo hoo ha ha ha ...
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Managed to get the steering hooked up too, but boy converting that virgin tilt tube took a lil longer than expected ... Even though it had the factory cap on one end'n plug in the other? It was still a lil crusty inside.
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You're really tearing into that "donor" boat Doug.
So I've had some trouble following.
Did the Baja go on your old 153 trailer? I dont remember. CRS
If so, what trailer is under the metric now?
Is the E90 going on the metric?
Yes the Baja went on the V153 trailer. The Holsclaw from the V163 is under the C500. Nope the 90 will not be going on the Metric. Less'n it's bumped up to 140 or so ...?
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Tested compression agin after running the motor awhile. Solid 125 psi in the right bank, closer to 130 in the left?
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****** SOBER UP DOUG ! ******
... LOL
Doug wrote .....
Oh well here's the latest. Got the linkage hooked up & most of the wiring. Having a lil trouble figgerin out the trim. Think I have all the right wires connected but cain't seem to make it work? Anyway y'oughta hear this thing run, sounds badazz. Whole new 'bark' compared to the 90.
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Ha! More euphoria than drunkeness ... least at the moment ...
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Lookin' forward to new " MPH " posts ...
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V153..........Are you running a 140 on a 15' Baja?
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I'm assuming you found the lost thread?
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V153..........Are you running a 140 on a 15' Baja?
That is correct
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I'm assuming you found the lost thread?
Correct as well
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IMHO ...
Favorite years are the 1993 & 1994 Evinrudes colors ...
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Yo Gregg. Musta missed this one. Ya that'd look killer agin the Baja.
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15 Baja with a 140 will be great fun I bet, can't wait to hear how that runs out............maybe you could post an upside down picture?LOL
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Doug ...
Sober up and quit siffin' that two stroke smoke !
... LOL
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maybe you could post an upside down picture
Well let's hope not.
Baja ran close to 52 with the half puked 90. Ya the 140 oughta be entertaining to say the least ...?
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Doug do you know if your 1983 140 HP Johnson is rated under the old or new horsepower rating system? 1982 to 1984 was the time outboard manufacturers were switching over, and not at the same time. This from the continuous wave forum:
"It should be noted that while the ICOMIA standard noted above may have come into effect on a given date, not all manufacturer's motors, or even different models from the same manufacturers were all rated the same way at the same time.
In the case of OMC outboards, in the 1984, 1985 model years some were prop shaft rated and some were still powerhead rated.
One needs to look at the owners manually or factory shop manual for a given motor to know exactly how it was rated."
This from iboats forum: "OMC went to propshaft ratings in 1985." "Merc switched to prop ratings on the V6s and inline 4s and 6s in 1982. OMC waited till about 85 or 86."
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Doug do you know if your 1983 140 HP Johnson is rated under the old or new horsepower rating system? 1982 to 1984 was the time outboard manufacturers were switching over, and not at the same time. This from the continuous wave forum:
"It should be noted that while the ICOMIA standard noted above may have come into effect on a given date, not all manufacturer's motors, or even different models from the same manufacturers were all rated the same way at the same time.
In the case of OMC outboards, in the 1984, 1985 model years some were prop shaft rated and some were still powerhead rated.
One needs to look at the owners manually or factory shop manual for a given motor to know exactly how it was rated."
Tbh I'm not quite sure David. OMC finally woke up'n realized Yamaha was kicking their ass by prop rating their motors in '82 or '83. God only knows where this one falls in line
I look at it this way: Best case scenario 50 more hp. Worst case scenario 25 more hp ...?
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Not sure, BIA rating ?
1983 Brochure
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2928.msg33262#msg33262 (http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=2928.msg33262#msg33262)
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Doug, Johnson or Evinrude dealership, or a OMC mechanic should know the answer.
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Finally figgered the trim out WooHoo! Have the wiring just about buttoned up. Now I got a leaky trim ram, sigh. Funny thing is it's leaking through the threads'n not the ram?
Asked a couple purty knowledgable guys about the hp rating David, and got two different answers ...
Cain't seem to access that page Gregg, Could you email me the '83 spec page(s)?
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It's 40 megs Doug ...
My mail box will only hold 10 megs.
Any one else having trouble ?
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Thanks buddy! That'll work. 'Preciate it.
edit: "Brake" HP, that's what I was afraid of. Means it was calculated at the crank. Oh well it still oughta outperform the 90?
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There only one thing to do Doug ...
MODIFY !
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MODIFY !
Ya I was kinda thinkin the same thing. From what I understand there's some 'ductwork' under the bubblebutt that can be tweaked a lil?
Appears to run good. Strong spark on all 4 cyls. Seems to idle a lil rougher than the 90? But sometimes they run better in the water so we'll see Sunday, I hope. That is if'n I kin get the leaky trim ram plugged up.
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From what I've been told by many OMC mechanics is that you only lose 7 - 10 HP from crank rating to prop rating. So you have a 140 that's pushing 130 hp. That's 40 more hp.
I ran that 96 model 88 SPL on my CVX 16 all of 2011. Ran great and top end was 43 -44 with two adults and a full tank of fuel.
I put the original '77 model 115 on last fall and it's a big difference with the less than 25 hp increase. It jumps on plane faster and the mid range is much stronger. Top end is about 47 - 49 depending on the water.
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Doug, you may have leaking O rings in your tilt rams. Your Johnson dealer has rebuilding kits for rams. I did the rams on the 115 Merc myself.
The old 140 HP Merc at the crankshaft became the 115 HP Merc under the prop horsepower rating system.
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From what I've been told by many OMC mechanics is that you only lose 7 - 10 HP from crank rating to prop rating. So you have a 140 that's pushing 130 hp. That's 40 more hp.
You say the nicest things, are you married ...?
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Well, monkeyed around with the trailer a lil more. Got it about where it needs to be at the transom. Dunno why I didn't spring for another pair of bunk brackets cuz the fwd ones are purty crappy too. Pick up a pair tomorrow & change them out as well. Decided I'm gonna sand the epoxy "repair" from around the drain plug'n install a garboard fitting. Mebbe even spring for one'a them fancy schmancy chrome ones?
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;D I think I found a motor for my CVX. Just get him down a bit on the price and I'd need wings on the Carlson.
1995 150 H.P. MERCURY PRO MAX - $5,000.00
For Sale 150 HP MERCURY PRO MAX, With Controls and S.S. Prop 20' Shaft. This Motor will turn 6500 RPM and needs to be on a Speed Hull or a Bass Boat capable of going over 70 MPH I currently have it on a Center Console boat and I need a 25' Shaft Motor The asking Price is $5000 Call Ken @ 504-289-1673 if Interested.
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;D I think I found a motor for my CVX. Just get him down a bit on the price and I'd need wings on the Carlson.
1995 150 H.P. MERCURY PRO MAX - $5,000.00
For Sale 150 HP MERCURY PRO MAX, With Controls and S.S. Prop 20' Shaft. This Motor will turn 6500 RPM and needs to be on a Speed Hull or a Bass Boat capable of going over 70 MPH I currently have it on a Center Console boat and I need a 25' Shaft Motor The asking Price is $5000 Call Ken @ 504-289-1673 if Interested.
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Suweet! Ya I'd like to hang that on the C500?
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WAHOO ! ! !
Can't wait for MPH on that setup !
Kind of mild compared to that guy with a 235 HP Evinrude on the CV though ... LOL
http://carbondale.craigslist.org/boa/2888351618.html (http://carbondale.craigslist.org/boa/2888351618.html)
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Got the true tracker hung. Might be just my imagination but it appears to sit closer to the prop on this motor vs the 90. That's the 13 1/2 Lightspeed btw, not sure the 13 3/4 SRX will fit? Find out tomorrow.
Listen to this: Borrowed a factory trim cylinder tool and still can't get the dang thing loose! Guess I'm gonna have to put an impact on it? God only knows what that crazy redneck did to it ...
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Leaky trim cyl fixed, SS garboard fitting installed:
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New bunk brackets on, springs next. Was gonna move the axle aft but then thought I'd better wait til the bow tank is in?
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edit: Remind me to square that fwd one up ...
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GPS 'mount' (Sticky Velcro)
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Test run tomorrow Doug ?
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Test run tomorrow Doug ?
If'n I wake up ...?
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Whuddya think ...?
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No one will ever know ...
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No one will ever know ...
That's kinda what I'm thinkin ...
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A rather lackluster day. Rained on & off all afternoon. Best I could muster was 53.5 mph. Appears to have a fuel starvation 'issue' at top end.
Other than that she ran like a champ. Comes outa the hole like a friggin rocket. You can definitely feel the extra horses in the midrange as well.
I don't believe this motor has a rev limiter. Any ideas as to the top end problem?
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53.5 mph aint' bad for the first time out ...
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53.5 mph aint' bad for the first time out ...
Ya I hear ya Gregg, wasn't expecting any miracles. Figgered I'd have a few bugs to work out. Purty happy overall.
Funny story 'bout the shift linkage adjustment. Had the boat beached at Snake Island and me'n a buddy adjusted the shift cable a lil bit. It was going into fwd early & reverse late. Problem was we cranked it the wrong way. Motor was in fwd when it started. Gave the folks in front of it quite a thrill lemme tell ya. Thankfully I had the presence of mind to yank the kill switch. DUH!
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Great MPH of 53.5 for the first run Doug. That matches my Glastron V-153 with the 1974 Merc 115 HP Merc. For the fuel starvation problem, I would change the fuel diaphram, put Sea Foam in the gas, spray carbon deposit remover into the carbs and sparkplug holes, check the timing and fuel hose fittings.
The 1988 Merc 115 HP compared to the 1974 Merc 115 HP has much better breathing and mid and top range and higher RPM limits. With the warm Minnesota weather here, I am anxious to switch engines and give you a run for your money.
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Thanks David. Ya soon as I figure out what's wrong up top I guarantee this thing'll kick butt.
P'd me off. It would hook up'n start really haulin azz, & then pfft. Back off the throttle a lil and wham, everything's good!?
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Fuel pump kit ordered. Think I'm gonna eliminate the connector @ the motor as well. Don't plan on disconnecting it there anytime soon?
Fyi if yer running ethanol fuel getcha some of this stuff. Sierra product. Guy I got it from has had a chunk submerged in a jar of pure ethanol for months. Still looks like new!
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I installed an electric 3-5lb pump (Mr Gasket) and eliminated the connector at the motor. The last thing you want to do is lean out at high RPM.
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I had an 84 Johnson 140 on my CVX16, it was the best engine I ever had, with a 19" prop it would run 55, never tested any other prop. I’m positive the hp is rated on the prop.
I never run ethanol because they were originally designed to run on regular gas, I bite the bullet and run premium. I don't think you have a fuel pump problem, I think you have a vent problem. Did you open the filler cap and bi-pass the fuel filter, I would test those before ording a fuel pump.
Joe
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The last thing you want to do is lean out at high RPM
Tell me about it Jerry. I'd just start gettin her wound up'n dialed in. Then all of a sudden, PFFT! Thought I was gonna stuff it the first time it happened? Back off the throttle a lil'n all is good.
Ya a couple people have recommended eliminating the connector @ the motor'n I'm gonna go for it. Always disconnect it at the other end anyway ...?
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Got new blue plumbed all the way to the tank now. If'n y'all ain't usin' this stuff ya need to be. Take a look at Attwood's gray crap after a lil over a year. 'Nuff said ...?
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Sent the SRX down to Burris, the Mom'n Pop'n Cop prop shop in Ft. Myers. (They don't call it that but everybody else does ...) Cop should return it Thursday. Having em hammer another degree of pitch (24) into it. And mebbe add a lil cup to help it hook up better. Expect a call from them tomorrow.
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I'm sure they will balance the prop also. Do you have a tachometer? What are your RPM's and what is your max recommended RPM's?
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Do you have a tachometer? What are your RPM's and what is your max recommended RPM's?
No tach yet Dave, have one by Sunday. The 90 would spin the SRX to 6200 on the V153 so I figger bending another inch into the wheel to be a safe bet?
From what I understand newer models and/or power packs are rev limited @ 5800 rpm. So I'm told.
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Thanks Mark!! 'Preciate it buddy! Appear to have picked up a couple hundred rpm @ idle? (Hee hee hee hee hee ...)
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Yikes! Hopefully not too much of this crud made it past the screen. According to the GPS my runtime was under an hour so I think it'll be okay?
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Prop cop brought the SRX back today. Ain't she purty?
Bobby Beer is on his way over'n were gonna adjust the idle. Gonna get the linkage adjusted and make sure I'm gettin' wide open throttle too.
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Doug, it looks like a jewel. Hope the increased pitch is just what you need.
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Thanks David! She's gettin' there. Kinda in a hurry to get the Baja seaworthy again so's I can tear back into the C500. My buddy JR @ Atomic Paint offered to lay some new flake on it in exchange for a lil advertising space. Told him I'd get back to him ... Heh heh heh
Me'n Bobby Beer got things a lil more dialed in. Discovered some slop in the steering linkage where the rod meets the motor. Not much, but enough to see. And that's something I don't like to see ...
Managed to free up the old tilt tube nut And installed the 'greasy nut' Ernie gave me. It's on there tight and the grease fitting lined up in a good spot? WooHoo! Bobby says to use white lithium grease on it. Any thoughts about that recommendation?
Ya Burris propellor is a top notch family run operation. They know their stuff. Never been dissatisfied with their work.
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The Mom'n Pop'n Cop Prop Shop ROCKS. These guys are the best!
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How many things are wrong with this transom? Just the transom, not the splashwell.
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All of them ... LOL
Sorry not much help Doug ...
Wood rot draining out holes ?
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Got a whopping 54.1 outa her today, woohoo ... Still losing power @ top end. Carbs rebuilt, fuel pump too. Cleaned each'n every friggin' electrical connection as well. WTF!?
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Clogged main jet or jets, fuel line or tank vent restriction, air leak at a fuel fitting ...
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Ya ... What Rich said ... HA HA ...
54.1 mph a new season high !
Not bad Doug ...
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air leak at a fuel fitting
That's the direction we're leaning Rich. Pun intended. Screw those silly 'special' hose ties (Wire tie with a curved base) that yer sposed to use. I'm goin back to good ole fashioned lil ss hose clamps?
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Well I got the goods from Harbor freight. Tongue jack appears to be purty heavy duty. The 7" polisher looks decent too. Came with some pads'n discs and a spare set of brushes.
re. My top end problem: Guy told me that the timer base might be advancing too far. Any input?
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Check it with a timing light and adjust as needed.
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That's the polisher I have and I have gotten 10 times the cost out of that thing since I bought it. Buffed my boat, my brother's Master Craft, my cars, my neighbor's truck and a couple of friend's boats as well. Not bad for the $34 I paid on sale.
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Decided to try making the old V153 bimini frame work. Had to tweak the mounting width by almost a foot but it layed out okay? Wrong color, however we're working on that. Sunbrella has a brand new color out, called "smoke", ironically. Looks kinda like black metalflake?
Check it out @ Sunbrella.com
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Are you sure the Sunbrella is not really an air foil meant to lift the entire hull and gain a few MPH? Is the angle of attack adjustable, remote controlled? Now you can smoke them. LOL. Looks great Doug, professionally done.
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Are you sure the Sunbrella is not really an air foil meant to lift the entire hull and gain a few MPH?
Nope! At speed the top should be neutral/horizontal. I reckon if'n ya riveted all the fittings'n double stitched the top it might be able to create a lil lift. But that would probly be negated by the wind resistance. Cost me 1.5 mph or so top end in the V153?
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Never noticed it before but I'm kinda diggin' the way the motor cover mimics the dash & windshield when viewed from behind. (See 1st 'organ' pic) Might just get a wild hair up my my butt & bend a lil more of what we in the canvas business call 'crown' into the bimini frame to match?
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Lookie what I got today. Wish I could find out whether or not the tach lead from the control box would serve as a signal. Hate to run all that heavy wire back'n wrap it around a spark plug?
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specs
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specs
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Doug
email tiny tach .. There very helpful.
http://www.tinytach.com/tinytach/index.php (http://www.tinytach.com/tinytach/index.php)
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Well we managed to get 54.6 outa her today under less than ideal conditions. Windy, choppy'n snotty. Still running like a turd up top. Cleaned all connections. Greased the gerbil bearing etc. Wtf am I missing? Pardon my french but it's really beginning to piss me off!?
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............ it's really beginning to piss me off!?
Outboards are good at that!
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I'd eliminate a piece of the puzzle one at a time starting with the fuel tank and work towards the engine. Try another portable tank, change the fuel line or primer bulb, go from there. I've replaced many primer bulbs because the check balls inside were closing off fuel flow. Stay away from ones from Tempo/Moeller. The best primer bulbs are the ones from OMC/Bombardier.
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Been known to be wrong but don't think it's fuel delivery 'issue'. Got a glass filter right in front of the motor. Always full. Considering the amount of gas this thing burns compared to the 90 I highly doubt it's starving for fuel ...?
Hate to say it but I think what we're dealing with here is a not quite passable chunk of crud in one of the main jets?
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I'm with Rich, get a potable tank and take the filter out as well...
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Potable tanks is how I roll. Carry a 9 & a 6. Have a 14 gal tank that'd fit up under the bow. But my go-fast buddies tell me not to do that?
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Buddy gave me an old OMC tach today and let me borrow his hole saw. As he was puttin' the tool together he said 3 3/8" right? I answered yeah I think so. Well guess who just drilled a 3" hole through his dash. I'm gonna wring Ernies friggin' neck tomorrow ...
edit. To his credit the tach does work. You might notice I moved the control box fwd'n down. Like where I told my other good buddy Chuck I wanted it in the first place. You remember Chuck, he's the knucklehead that mounted the motor off center'n didn't seal the old Merc holes. Aie aie aie, why can't anything ever be easy?
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Measure twice. Cut once. Damn it >:( Is the hole supposed to be 3 3/8" and not 3"? Use a drum sander on a drill and slowly enlarge the hole. It'll work. Just ask my neighbor when he did the same thing.
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There's an easier way to fix the hole:
Add a backing board, a piece of scrap plywood screwed to the rear side of the panel using wood screws, covering the hole. Use that to be the pilot anchor for the larger hole saw.
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Ya, plan to redrill the hole tomorrow when I get the correct size saw. Duh! Why didn't I double check? Now I got three times the work. Grr.
Oh well meanstwhile, not to be discouraged, I eliminated the aft straps on the bimini by adding a pair of stiff bars. Much easier to access'n egress without the straps.
To be honest the boat probly wouldn't have a top on it yet if I hadn't screwed up'n ordered (4) 7/8" rail mounts for a job that required 1" ... 40$ mistake. Duh again.
Barring any more effups hope to have the tach installed tomorrow eve.
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Finally! 'Bout freakin' time huh? Seems to work fine. WooHoo! Now what to put in the other hole, hmm ...
New fuel line retainer finally got here too. Might get real fancy'n turn it over'n run the line through the oil line loop?
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Put a plastic plug plate in the spare hole for now.
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Yeah I considered sticking a hole plug in it. Decided to put the non-functioning yet still optomistic fuel gauge in for the time being. Believe I'll stick a horn button in the hole stb of the switch panel. Assume that's what was there. Or a cigarette lighter perhaps ...?
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A cigarette lighter perhaps ...?
Don't forget the ashtray ;)
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Don't forget the ashtray ;)
Ha! Hey decided to go with a horn button instead. The one outa the 153 fit the hole perfectly. Dug the vw sounding horn outa the housing too. Just gotta mount a lil longer bracket'n stick it up under the dash'n wire it in?
Figgered I'd plug the 2" hole with the scavenged V163 fuel gauge for the time being. Just have to keep reminding myself that it's not accurate. Always reads full ...
Got to thinkin it might be a good idea to cover the LCD display on the Tiny Tach. Thought I might make a lil canvas flap velcroed on top'n bottom. Then I spied it, cap for one of the trailer guides. Works like a charm'n I gotta spare ...
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Still have some high end 'issues', but for the most part she ran purty good today. New plug wires should be in tomorrow.
Hey listen to this my boy Brian over at Unique Upholstery on Venice Ave is redoing a similar Baja for a customer. Blue 17 footer. I'm gonna scoot over there and pull a pattern off'n the front seat. WooHoo!
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WAHOO !
Way to go Doug !
HAY ... This isn't a April fools joke ?
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This isn't a April fools joke ?
Nope! But JR fooled me. Had me believin' somebody stole the Bumble Bee (his bass boat) which happens to be wearing the cowl from my 140 at the moment. Gave it to him with the understanding he was gonna paint it?
Oh well like a dumbazz I fell for the story hook line'n sinker. Even after being fooled earlier in the day by my friend the really hot tall cashier @ Publix supermarket. Told me there was a problem with my debit card. I said okay I'll pay cash. She said no you can't do that if your debit card doesn't work ...
Anybody get burned more than twice today? (I fall for it every year ...)
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Forgot to mention the dang redneck rigged tattle-tale tube blew itself up into the motor housing and extinguished the motor yesterday. So she's now been thoroughly baptized by saltwater, in and out. Aie aie aie ...
Ironically I have the fitting where it goes through the cowl on order. Oh btw the fitting on the bubble butt was incorrect as well. And the tubing was too big, allowing water that should've been cooling the motor to exit the peehole instead.
Went ahead'n pirated the parts off'n the 90 for now. Knowing me I'll leave the 90 parts on 'til I need the new ones, then not be able to find them ...?
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Go to "uzicanvas" & check out 'Baja vs Scarab'. Make ya laugh. Plus mebbe you can help diagnose my top end problem?
Pardon the cameraman's french, he drops the f-bomb once or twice. (Chicago boy ...)
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Couldn't find it Doug, would you post a link here?
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I can't find it ether ...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uzicanvas&page=1 (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uzicanvas&page=1)
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Sorry for the false alarm. My bad. Stay tuned.
Stood right there'n watched my buddy upload it. Said upload successful? Wtf!?
Try again tomorrow.
edit. While you're waiting check out the Glastron vs Stingray vid. Dang I miss that boat. Madison's old birthday/silly string vid is purty funny. Sorry for the delay.
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Enjoy. (Remember "R' rated.)
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WARNING ... STRONG LANUAGE ... WARNING
DSCN1465.AVI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCF7yW5ZmXQ#)
R rated? :o :D
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R rated?
Mebbe I meant PG? To the best of my knowledge there was no nudity involved. 'Least on my boat. Cain't speak for JR and Jeremy ...
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Doug, how does the Baja feel at almost 56? Course your a speed freak so its likely not fast enough. :o
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It handles purty good Ross. Feels more stable & less squirrely than the V153. But that's probly due to the fact it's wider'n heavier. Not to dis the Gtron, it was a much better boat in the choppy stuff.
Got the new wires in yesterday, 'bout freakin' time! Ain't they cute? $9 bucks a pop. Hoping they'll have some effect at least on my top end dilemna? Itching to put 'em on but the boat's over at my next door neighbors detail shop. We buffed a lil section of the bow over here a couple nights ago and the results were outstanding. We're expecting the end result to be dazzling. Stay tuned.
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Looks like the same type of wire I've got on my engine. I didn't like the 90* ends/boots they provided for the distributor so I replaced them with straight ends.
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp340/Rattan3973/V174%20Floor%20Construction/Finishing%20Touches/IMG_0612.jpg)
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp340/Rattan3973/V174%20Floor%20Construction/Finishing%20Touches/IMG_0660.jpg)
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Ran purty good overall. Dang plastic ratcheting hose clamp on the stb side of the exh manifold failed. Doused the motor again. Arrgh!!! Swiped the clamps off'n the bilge pump to get me through the day. Good thing I didn't need the pump ...?
No speed records due to a strong North wind. When it blows like that it really stacks up chop in the ditch. I'm guessin' it was a good foot'n a half or so. The 153 wouldn't of minded but not so with the Baja. Lemon Bay was nasty too'n the Gulf was way outa my league. Mebbe a new speed record next week ...?
Hey check out the buff & wax job my buddy Ryan did Saturday. This is one case where the picture does not do justice. The rainbow flake is simply freakin' dazzling. WooHoo!
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Check out this new Sunbrella color: "Smoke" I'm diggin' it. What do y'all think. Smoke bimini comin' soon?
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Looks nice, how much is that sunbrella going to set you back? I heard it's expensive.
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I pay about $20 bucks a yard for Sunbrella 60". Plus shipping. (The shipping is what kills ya btw.) 46" material is a lil cheaper, 80" is more expensive. Fyi every color is available in 46", most in 60", and a select few of the most popular in 80". If'n ya wanna step up to Sunbrella Plus or Sunbrella Supreme naturally there is a price increase.
Finally got 'round to givin' the 140 a thorough powerhead scrub. Still can't believe I doused her with salt water! Twice? Duhhh Oh well we gave her a good scrub with some warm soapy water. Let her air dry for a few hours in the near gale down here. Geeze was the wind blowin'! Anyway then blew her off with compressed air'n saturated her with some 'Pro-Tect-It' corrosion inhibitor. Good stuff.
Hoping for a new speed record tomorrow. Stay tuned
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Ran 55.9 today. Heh heh heh. Was hoping for a lil more? Oh well. Got pulled over by the hot blonde deputy on the way home from the ramp. Forgot to plug the trailer lights back in. She let me off with a warning.
Am kinda proud that I asked her out'n didn't get tased or shot. Who knows, I do have a degree in Criminal Justice?
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That is where the Glastron has an edge over the Baja. With a Glastron, you would have had a date. With a Baja, you go home alone.
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That is where the Glastron has an edge over the Baja. With a Glastron, you would have had a date. With a Baja, you go home alone.
I think yer onto something David. After all "Glas" rhymes with "Class"? Baja rhymes with what ... Ha ha? Heh heh heh
Have to go now. Just me'n my fantasies. Honestly do think Deputy Debbie likes me? Quite frankly nothing turns me on more than a good looking woman wearing body armor & carryin' a honkin' sidearm ...
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You spend way too much time on Snake Island.
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Was motor runnin better now ?
56 mph aint bad ...
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motor runnin better now? 56 mph aint bad ...
Ya she ran purty good yesterday Gregg. Still got a few wrinkles to iron out but overall it was a good day. Took a buddy, then another, for rides. They were both duly impressed. This hull comes outa the hole and/or accelerates like a freakin' ballistic missle.
Yo Jerry. My problem is I don't spend enough time on Snake Island ... Only out there for a few hours on Sunday?
Btw finally got a definative answer as to what to set the pole switch to on the OMC tach. As I suspected it was calibrated incorrectly. Knew it was readin' low. Now if I kin just figger out how to calibrate the tiny tach to jive. Ironically the tiny tach matched the OMC before so now we know it was wrong too?
My brain hurts ...
edit. Did some calculations based on Sunday's gps data and/or fuel consumption. Reckon I was burnin' a quart a minute @ wot. I'm "green" in other ways I s'pose, but when I'm in my boat I prefer to haul a**'n burn gas ...?
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LOOKIN' GOOD Dougie !
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Thanks Gregg. Finally got tired of waiting for JR to start on the motor cover so I went'n repo'd it today. Figger if I prep it it might give him a lil incentive to get off his butt'n paint it. Started sanding & the sky opened up. Sigh ... Oh well the good news is our frantically predicted "Storm Of The Century" has so far proven to be a *Censored* in the wind. So boating tomorrow's not out of the question.
Ordered a new gasket, wouldya believe the old one was stapled on? It wasn't in terrible shape but it wouldn't be right w/new paint?
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Aren't all the older OMC cowl gaskets stapled on?
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Aren't all the older OMC cowl gaskets stapled on?
From what I've recently learned yes. Called a couple buddies'n they both said uhuh. Reckon I never looked that closely before?
I have considerable experience with staplers. But can only imagine what that tool looks like. Not to mention what it costs. Gotta be purty bad azz to staple rubber to fiberglass like yer desk stapler sticks pieces of paper together?
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Those staples are kind of a pain in the butt to get out without damaging the fiberglass too, huh Doug!? I put a new one on the cowl of the "new" 'Rude, but haven't fastened it down. I figure if the seal flies off while the cowl is on, we've got bigger problems to worry about! What (if anything) are you going to do to hold yours on?
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Not quite sure if/how I'll fasten it Mark. Thinkin mebbe a thin bead of adhesive in the bottom of the cavity. Then set it on the driveway with some weight on top? I dunno ...
Managed to get a lil primer on after the 'storm of the century' abated. It's gonna take a few coats to tie up all the loose fibers but it'll be okay.
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I replaced the cover gasket on the 88 SPL and I just used weather strip/trim glue to make it stick to the cover. Placed a small bead in the gasket groove, put the gasket on the cover, mounted the cover and forgot about it. Took the cover off a month later and it's stuck on there quite well.
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Bellows adhesive might work well. I've only used it one time, for intended use, but it sure seemed to work well.
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Super Whetherstrip Adhesive works great. It's what I use. You really only need it where the 2 ends come together/
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Thanks fellers. Ya I figger a lil dab of goo here'n there'n a lil pressure as it cures oughta hold it in place? I like the "set it'n ferget it" idea btw.
Got some more sanding'n priming done. Was a lil overzealous in my sanding of one of the edges. Whoopsie! Oh what the heck, plannin to strip all the decomposing foam off'n the underside anyway. Make doing that repair a lil easier ...?
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Just looking at these posts. I guess that hole is the only place for air to enter. I thought that was the place.
I'll go to Classic G to look more. I'm sure you're busy with your projects. I'm sitting by the window looking at a fresh snow. It will get to single digits tonight. (Fremont, NE) The trailer might be same as mine before I widened the frame. Had to offset the rollers to keep from scratching the chines. Pics on 1980 CVX 16. I believe they made the metric only one year, then back to CVX in 82. Don't know if another CVX or CV deck would fit. But the color wouldn't match. Best is to see a Gelcoat man or paint with metallic since the top does not sit in the water. I repaired my side with a computer paint match basecoat/clearcoat. Can't see the perfect repair. (opaque) If you have studied the Tom Brown CV or CVX mods he extended the inside chines. Don't know if that would cause cavitation on the turn. As long as you have it broken down I would try to improve the pad by making those strakes wider. The CVX pad was probably created by filling the mold from the CV 16. Since the pad is tapered wouldn't it act as a brake since the pad is wedge shaped? I like your Baha. What did it take to get from 56 to 63 besides a jack plate? Is the 83 140HP the one from this C-500 project?
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Actually I believe that hole is sposed to let hot air out. The cooler air enters under the carbs from around this plate:
I seriously doubt a deck from a different model would fit. It'll be alotta work but I'm just gonna have to salvage what I got.
Thanks but I think I'm gonna leave the hull/strakes alone. It's purty straight so I ain't gonna mess with it.
Ya the Baja's a purty cool lil boat. Yes the 140 is the one off'n the C500. Speed increase came from working the bugs outa the motor (been sittin a long time) and running a reworked 13 3/4 x 24 SRX. No jack plate.
I reckon a pad might work as a 'brake' under decelleration but when yer riding on it I don't see how?