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Offline 75starflight

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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2012, 10:04:38 PM »
That won't be a problem. I will have all three with me all weekend. I am hoping to get them all tested before we leave for Red Wing on Thursday.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2012, 10:08:13 PM »
I have a 23 laser you can try too but I think it will be too much for your boat. Best performing prop I found for my cv16SS with a 140 mercruiser.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2012, 10:49:15 PM »
I'll give it a try. Merc 120 to 140, I might be able to swing it.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2012, 03:50:18 PM »
I would be interested in buying the 21 Laser II, for a 19CSS.  Tom Stibbe 608-788-2772 home.  I will be attending on Saturday.

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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2012, 04:22:22 PM »
Sorry Tom, just purchased it, and still have not tried it out. Plus I want to play with it for a little while.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2012, 11:37:57 PM »
75 Starflite:

After you do some testing, if you decide to sell the 21" Laser II, I would purchase it.  Thanks, TS

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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2012, 12:22:02 PM »
Well the Phoenix is officially off of the water for the rest of the year. Went out yesterday with the measurements Rich provided for his 470 to see what would need to be done with the engine bay and cover and discovered that one of the front engine mount lag bolts was sitting on top of the engine mount. So I screwed it back in by hand and started pulling up on it, and guess what happened.....It pulled right out along with a lot of dry rotted wood. So now I think the Phoenix is going to get a full floor and stringer rebuild. I was hoping to do that in the winter of 2012-2013.

As for the 470 upgrade, Its not going to happen! Its going to take too much modification, and we still want to keep the original look of the boat. If i can find a good 140 over the winter during the rebuild I might install it.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2012, 04:52:48 PM »
Did an evaluation of the needed repairs of the front engine mount.  It not as bad as I thought :)

First it is a result of the Phoenix's air time Friday morning at the meet, and the hard landing.

Second as long as the center stringer did not take any damage it should be a relatively simple repair. The front engine mount is supported by a piece of plywood and looks like a 2x4 or 2x6 to raise the mounting point for the front engine mount. This is supported by the haul and center stringer.

So here is my idea for doing the repair.

Remove the jump seats. Build a structure to support the engine by the front engine hook. Once the engine is supported remove the front engine mount. Grind out all the fiberglass holding the engine support wood in place and remove. Check stringer for rot an damage. If OK soak stringer with acetone to remove any moisture. Reinforce with a layer of fiberglass. Build new support for engine better than the old one of course. Bed it into the haul structure with cabosil. Reinstall front engine mount on engine and lower into place.

Am I on the right track?  If any one has any other ideas I am open to any suggestions.

Also just curious if any one would happen to have any left over cabosil and heavy woven mat laying around they would like to sell?
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2012, 05:10:52 PM »
You'll want to be careful about lifting and/or lowering the engine with the drive installed or else you'll stress the drive shaft coupler on the flywheel and the gimbal bearing. Remove the drive prior so this way when you're done with the front mount you can check and reset the engine alignment height as needed before reinstalling the drive.

When I reconstructed my front mount plank I used 2x6's and instead of using lag bolts on the engine mount I thru-bolted it with large fender washers and lock nuts on the underside. Here's some pics from my engine mount fabrication.











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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2012, 05:11:42 PM »
I have lots of cab, left, yer welcome to some of it.
Im almost done with the gt
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs aka Phoenix Rising
« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2012, 05:25:43 PM »
Thanks for the info Rich.

Joe, I'll take some off your hands. Will send you a PM.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2012, 09:52:43 PM »
Well, as you all know I need to do some repairs to the front motor mount on the Phoenix Rising. Got the engine and out drive removed today, and I have to say it wasn't as hard as i thought it would be. I spent most of the day getting my A-frame finished up. Had both the out drive and engine removed in about 2 hrs, but after getting a closer look at the lowest part of the transom I found a crack in the fiberglass covering it so I applied some pressure and water squeezed out. So I got the smallest pry bar I own out and broke some of the glass off and did a little prodding and it was solid. I am going to do some more digging into that when I decided to take a break from putting up aluminum fascia on my shop tomorrow. But I will certainly say this, I really need to do some power washing back there!





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Offline Rich_V174SS

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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #52 on: September 15, 2012, 10:05:32 PM »
That looks vaguely familiar. Good job!

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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #53 on: September 15, 2012, 10:17:46 PM »
Rich, I was just thinking the same thing when I posted that picture. I was just looking through your stringer and transom rebuild on the national forum.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2012, 02:01:44 PM »
Double checked the lower transom just now, and not good news...I was able to sink a flat screw driver a quarter inch into the transom and was able to remove material. So, while i was sitting there I decided to pry back the fiberglass covering the end of the center stringer, and of course its soft. >:(





At least I can say I got 2 summers use out of it before I had to gut the Phoenix and to do the stringers and transom. :)

Interior removal starts this week.

Oh BTW Rich, I found the cause of my trim limit sender not working, a broken wire. I will address that when I pull the gimbal housing.




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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2012, 08:35:18 PM »
Pulled the fuel tank and I think I found the reason for the constant gas smell when I would uncover the boat. The whole front quarter of the tank is layered in duck tape. Its to dark for pictures so I will post some in the morning after I drain the tank.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2012, 09:01:00 PM »
Yikes...I'm not the only one with fuel tank issues huh?  We can have a pity party at the Iowa meet in June.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2012, 09:17:05 PM »
That works for me.  ;D hopefully I will know if it is able to be saved by noon tomorrow.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2012, 09:50:11 AM »
Dont you love surprises? Now the real fun begins. Sounds like you know what you are doing.
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Re: V-179 Starflite Repairs
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2012, 09:12:35 PM »
Got the tank drained today and the results look very promising. The duck tape actually looked like it was installed at the factory to protect the tank. Anyone have any ideas why? ???

Had some debris in the tank but nothing major and no surface rust on the inside. I think I will get some of that tank coating stuff just to ensure many years of use to come and give the exterior a fresh coat of paint.


















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