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Offline Crebb

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Carlson interior
« on: January 06, 2013, 12:00:57 PM »
I'm new and thanks for having me. I've been reading this forum for several months and it has been a big help planing my project. It's a 1981 C-500 Carlson. Has the stardard features: rotten transom, soft spots in the floor, broken windshield, the seats are toast and the gelcoat is faded. Just started taking it apart, I have a question that I have not seen here. Glastron specs say this color (Emerald Mist) comes with a Green Mint interior. My interior is blue and sure looks to be the original. What's the deal? The blue really doesn't look that good with the emerald but I want it to be original. Could it have been a mistake in the build? Ready to take the seats to the upholsterer and need to know the right color. If you have any insight, I would appreciate it.
Thanks, Crebb
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2005 Crownline (wife requires a boat that always works)

Offline Hyperacme

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2013, 12:21:56 PM »
There is a lot of inconsistencies in the brochures. Most likely printed out six months before production. Every emerald mist i have seen has had the green interior. Very cool boat and color. Can you post pictures of it ?
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Offline dorelse

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2013, 01:14:56 PM »
I've also never seen an Emerald Mist with anything but a matching mint interior.

I do know that another member OleRed has seen a Scimitar that started blue and faded to a green, so maybe that's possible?

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Offline CVX Fever

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2013, 06:28:27 PM »
I'd say your boat was blue but has faded green. Pretty common. The clear gel starts to yellow over time and mix that with blue and you get green. My blue '79 CVX18 is doing it. My brothers '80 Intimidator had it something fierce. Interesting is that I've seen many older blue CVX16's that look fine. It seems like certain blues(darker) have more of a tendency to do this.

A good wet-sand and polish did wonders for mine but if you pull off any of the deck hardware you can really see how it's taken on a green hue over the years.
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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2013, 07:18:54 PM »
Could be ... Kip ...
Pull some deck hardware ...

OH YA ... Welcome to CGOAMN Crebb !
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Offline CVX Fever

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2013, 09:29:44 PM »
Yes - Welcome Crebb!

What is the solid color?

You can never use the marketing brochures as gospel but if the boat is emerald mist it should have a mint green solid color. If it was blue metal flake then it should have a baby blue solid color.

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 09:28:35 AM »
You guys are right on the money. I feel stupid, now that the seats and windshield are out you can see that the boat was blue and has faded to green. Weird how it faded so evenly with no blotches or shadows. So now what? I'm sure I can get a shine on this but it's always going to look bad with the yellowed clearcoat. I have pix for you but I cannot get them on here. Reduced the size by 50% twice so they are less than 100KB and still won't go. Then I go to post without the photos and it says I already posted this. I can't figure it out.
Thanks for the help,
Crebb
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Offline Hyperacme

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 09:35:08 AM »
Email them to me. addresses Is in my profile.

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 11:28:34 AM »
Lookin' GOOD Curt !







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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2013, 07:50:10 PM »
I've always liked the metric series interiors, I think they are the best ones glastron ever made...I would not change anything!!!

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2013, 08:09:30 PM »
I agree.  Reminds me of the interior that was in my Celebrity which was very classy.  Those seats and rear bench would great in my CVX.
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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2013, 08:50:08 PM »
Send pictures of the Jetflite !





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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2013, 08:54:13 PM »
What ever happened to Celebrity Boats?  I always thought they made a great boat...

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2013, 08:56:01 PM »
that boat looks the same color as my scimitar .. Ocean Aqua


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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2013, 09:05:21 PM »
" What ever happened to Celebrity Boats? "

Scooter said investment banker brought it in mid 90's ( not sure of time ) quality went down, sales went down ...
Son of previous owner got it back and improved product ...
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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2013, 10:13:08 PM »
Celebrity got bought by Bombadier. The old owners then started Mariah and Crownline boats. Scooter told me this one year at the Mpls boat show when I commented how the new Crowline on display was the splitting image of my older Celebrity.
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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2013, 05:04:24 PM »
Nuther C500 pic:
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2013, 05:17:01 PM »
I wish it was ocean Aqua, then I wouldn't have the color issue. No one has said what to do; wet sand or new clearcoat or both?
I knew someone was going to ask about the JetFlight. Just bought that 'cause it was there and I think it could be something still. Haven't even thought about starting on it yet. I would gladly send pictures as we go along and of the JetFlight but I cannot make this thing take my photos. Hyper says to try photo bucket. Going there next.
I know boat mfg's get bought and sold all the time.  Glastron (gobbled by 4winns parent co) is now over here just 50 miles from me. Don't know who owned Crownline in 2005 but the one I have is very high quality. Except for the transom ladder, stupidest thing I ever saw. Must have left that the the engineers on the "B" team. You guys are a lot of fun, I can see burning up some time here and learning lots. Both my son's are in Minneapolis with new babies, so I get over there every other month or so. Saw your booth at the Minneapolis boat show last year and that's what started me on the Carlsons again. Used to be into them in the 80's. Motor coming off this weekend and then the cap off after that. Hope you have a plan for my gelcoat by the time she goes back together.
Thanks,
Crebb
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2005 Crownline (wife requires a boat that always works)

Offline V153

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2013, 05:51:53 PM »
Here's my C500. As you can see she's a lil rougher than yours ...  It was advertised as a 16' Glasstron w/140. I was mainly interested in the motor so I drove all the freakin way to Brooksville to have a look see. Knew it was a C500 soon as I pulled up. Could hardly contain myself when she showed 130psi plus in all 4 holes.

I have the trim'n windshield. Sadly no interior whatsoever. Do plan a restoration, eventually. Meanwhile the motor is on my Quasi Glastron (Baja) and runnin like a champ.

Yo Crebb. Please take some closeup pics of yer interior? If'n ya don't mind ... 
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'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
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Offline dorelse

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Re: Carlson interior
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2013, 05:59:48 PM »
Honestly, the answer is going to be 'it depends'.  On my CVZ, the flake has actually faded from a metalflake copper, to a metalflake gold.  See the difference in the 2 pictures against the same upholstery sample?  

Mine won't come back to the original color without a complete regel, and that's $.  So...I did a complete wetsand, heavy compound, buffing, buffing and more buffing...and it came back to a pretty decent gold color.  (See 3rd & 4th picture)

My suggestion would be to start with some marine finish restorer and see what kind of progress you make...I'm sure others will chime in as well.







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