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Offline V153

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Look what followed me home:
« on: September 24, 2014, 06:27:14 PM »
A never fired "Nine Paged" '77 115. Scalloped block & scalloped teflon coated pistons. Ported. Big carbs. New stator & timer base. All new coils. New Starter & trim motor. Drilled mid, not sure I'm gonna use that. (Might be too noisy.) Cowl & pan. T&T and brackets sand blasted, ready for paint. Fresh paint on rest of mid. Gnarly looking chopper prop. Pile of assorted parts, gaskets, etc.

Know I'm takin a risk cuz it's never been run but figgered I couldn't go wrong for $500 bucks?

 
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2014, 08:04:02 PM »
The plan is to pull the heads, exhaust & intake'n see what's been done. (I got tonsa gaskets.) Find out what kinda reeds/stuffers are in there, etc.  Before I bought it I pulled one of the inspection covers. Pistons are brand new. The scalloping & port work is top shelf.

Reckon we'll stick it on the ole 90 mid'n see if'n we can make it run? Oughta be interesting. 
« Last Edit: September 24, 2014, 08:11:07 PM by V153 »
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2014, 08:48:03 PM »
Yo David the prop is a Ron Hill worked 30P chopper. #48-78800-30A4. Doubt I'll ever be able to use it ...  But it does fit. And it's razor sharp. Take a manatee's head clean off ...
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 11:59:41 AM »
Good score Doug !

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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2014, 12:22:27 PM »
nice
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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2014, 04:31:49 PM »
Ya I feel a lil guilty. The guy that it was being built for was killed in a motorcycle wreck. His buddys are all Merc heads so nobody really knew what to do with the motor.

Bobby Beer's on his way over to help me lug it outa the craport back onta the work bench.

Hate to take it apart but I dunno what's inside. Been told this is in there and that's in there. So now I have to see for myself.

Stay tuned.

 
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2014, 07:17:38 PM »
So which hull is this penciled to go on?

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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2014, 08:38:02 PM »
This one goes on the Baja. Then finish the C500. Got my eye on a 225 for that project.

See the scallop on the block'n pistons. Note the raised & squared off ports:

I'm told the psi's posed to be around 150. Cain't hardly turn it by hand. We took the bolts outa another inspection cover & were wonderin why we couldn't remove it. Pried hard til it finally came off with a "pop". It was then we realized vacuum was holding it on. Duh.

Priced out the prop. $519 from Ron Hill ...  Too bad I'll never be able to use it on this set-up.
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 11:40:03 PM »
What's  "Nine Paged" mean Doug ?
You might be able to make your money back, by selling that prop on Craigslist !

Once ya get the C500 going it will be just like old time's with you and Dave "Uppin" the anty ... LOL

WHOOooo.... 225 HP ...  Ya better beef up the transom !

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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2014, 12:11:11 PM »
Congratulations on the purchase Doug. Do not know exactly what you purchased, but seems to be a lot of good high performance parts that you can use. Probably with the prop, if you can not use it, the place to list it is on the Scream and Fly and Allison classifieds.
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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2014, 04:15:44 PM »
Ya I doubt my boys at Burris propeller can knock enough pitch outa it to where I could use it. I don't think they like bendin em more than a couple degrees either way from what they are.

Forgot to mention I got another motor stand with the deal. They claim they had the motor sittin on it but I dunno. Looks kinda flimsy. Think I'll stick with my home made version(s).

Went by Bob Clim's shop today to pick up a new impeller. Figgered it'd be a good idea since mine's been sitting a year. Bob wasn't real busy so I talked him into digging through his vast collection of manuals. We found he had doubles of this one: Year ain't exact but close enough. That thing is just SO much better'n the Clymer or Seloc.

Gregg, the "9 Pages" refers to an old article from Bass & Walleye titled "Crankin up your crossflow". Gave in depth instructions for all the mods. They modded a V6 but the same rules apply to the V4.

Plan for tonight is pop the intake'n exhaust manifolds and see what's up in there. Probly wasting my time but I just don't think I'd be able to sleep at night if'n I didn't. Plus it doesn't appear they use any gasket sealer or gel seal or locktite or anything during assembly?

Stay tuned
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2014, 08:01:53 PM »
Okay ... Pulled the heads. Pistons and bores look good. Heads are good but gonna swap em for a couple of mine that have the coil lugs. Gonna update the power pack arrangement too because where it sits now is right where my T&T solenoid box needs to be. And I hate the clunky bracket that holds it and the coils, etc. 

Gonna be fun tryin to get the flywheel off with the block sittin on the bench. But I think it's best to use the stator and timer base that match the powerpack. So all the pretty lil plugs fit together without monkeyin around with new connections.

Dunno who's reeds but they're two stage carbon fiber. Upgrading to a newer intake that has the lil egr/oil recirculating vacuum system. This'll require changing out the two lower inspection covers with two that have the vents. Carbs will be replaced with a newer pair that don't have choke butterflies, as those impede air flow. And it'll have the more modern choke 'primer' system installed.

So far ...

« Last Edit: September 28, 2014, 08:17:13 PM by V153 »
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2014, 03:22:28 PM »
New vs old intake: Note the inch increase in thickness. "High Rise" ...    Heh heh heh

But seriously I really need to have it. Or I'd be "pre-engineering" all my stuff backward to make it fit. The fuel pump, carb & shift linkage, etc, all mount on the later model intake. Plus the new intake has the fittings to recirc the gas/oil from the inspection covers. Gonna change all 4 to vented style.

We'll be swapping the outer bubble butt cover too cuz this one was born without a pee hole. Poor thing ...

 


« Last Edit: September 27, 2014, 03:43:30 PM by V153 »
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2014, 07:43:19 PM »
Welp we got the fancy carbon reeds installed in the new(er) "hi rise" intake, then commenced to bolting it on. 'Bout halfway through torquing it down we noticed the reed stuffers were still laying on the work bench ...  Naturally. So off it came again. We got it right the second time. Sigh ...   
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2014, 08:17:12 PM »
We'll be using the 1 5/16 carbs from the '83 140. Bleve they have #36 jets in em. Which is okay. But since I cain't 'member we'll probly pull em apart to check

Note the absence of air flow robbing choke butterflies. These have OMC's "primer enrichment" gig on em. Lot simpler than butterflies & the motor'll still start up cold.
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2014, 08:19:15 PM »
Sent you a PM Doug ...

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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2014, 04:56:57 PM »
Project Frankenrude: Heads, water jackets & exhaust are on. New, vented inspection covers too. Now all's we need is a lil plumbing & fuel'n fire ...

The 90 mid is cleanin up okay. Well as could be expected. I'm kinda fonda this new citrus Gunk. Works good & smells purty. Y'all should try it ...
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2014, 06:53:24 PM »
Coils are on. (Yes they're 'posed to be sitiated that way.) Carb & fuel pump test fit. Late model brain box is posed to go here: But only one bolt hole lines up. Hmm.

In other news we discovered the block is the coveted '76 135 model. Highest compression of all. King of the crossflows. WooHoo!


edit. Hey Joe do those water jacket covers on the heads look familiar? I just KNEW we'd find some use for your old motor somehow ...  Heh heh heh
« Last Edit: September 28, 2014, 07:10:55 PM by V153 »
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2014, 07:26:18 PM »
Note we got the flywheel off. No easy feat btw. Much to my chagrin however, the nut is stuck in the socket & shows no sign of wanting to come out anytime soon. Sigh ...
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


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Re: Look what followed me home:
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2014, 01:28:34 PM »
Hey Doug,
if you have a bolt the right size for that nut, set the bolt in, then use a small puller kit through the back end of the socket - some plumbing supply places will have a faucet puller that will have a threaded center that should get through the hole on the wrench side of that socket.

Or, really, if you've got a bolt long enough, keep driving the bolt and use the end of the bolt to push the socket off the top.
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