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Title: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 16, 2014, 05:52:40 PM
Moved/Split thread for 2015 Planning!

I'm good with that, provided you go first...no channel markers...you can find the sand bars first!
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: fireman24mn on June 17, 2014, 11:58:13 PM
Pictures should be fixed.

We had absolutely perfect water Thursday & Friday.  Little wind, no boats Thursday and most of Friday.  Saturday was very windy, so a couple of us went over to the resort to the water park.

Boat issues...mine isn't running right, Mike H's CVZ is gonna be a screamer when he gets it dialed in...Brandon blew his drive coupler...Erik's CV-23 is running great with the new motor.  Joe P's boat is ready to rumble...Joe 'Deuceman's boat was perfect as usual.

All in all a good weekend...thankfully the cicada's quieted down and night...how cow!!!

What else...um...they broke a water main, so our bathrooms were completely closed...had to go over by Barb's cabin to use a bathroom, shower, etc.

There was some discussion about moving it North or West next year...possibly Emmetsburg, Five Island Lake...or to Lake Icaria, Adams, IA...out west.

We'll see.  Emmetsburg has quite a bit to offer, Casino, Freshwater lake, camprounds, hotels, etc, and a couple hours from the TC's. 

If folks are interested, I'll run up and take a look some day this Fall.  Supposed to be a nice area.

 I lived in Emmetsburg many years ago. As I remember the lake was pretty good. If i remember the whole top half of the lake was pretty shallow, but if i remember they dredged it.  Also if you are thinking about that Area. Okoboji has a pretty large chain of lakes and there is plenty of different camping areas around the lake. I am really going to try and make next year.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 12:16:55 AM
Okoboji would be fun...expensive, lots to do, super busy lakes, but fun. 

My only thought was that Emmetsburg would potentially be more welcoming to us since we'd be 'News'...Casino has a nice RV park, but the campground is essentially a city park...so not necessarily great there.

2 years with terrible bathrooms at a State Park and I've about had it, and who puts a campgound on a hill and doesn't level at least a tent spot (Iowans...that's who)...the other option is a Corps park at Rathbun...but Rathbun is a haul for anyone not in the Southern 1/2 of Iowa.

Anyway, I'm willing to check it out if people are interested.

I will say this, Thursday & Friday were amazing 'on the water' days...even if it took 200 yards for me to get on plane and I could only cruise at 28 mph...still great days.  (DNR left us alone too...well, except for the helicopter buzzing Travis.)

Now...about the Amberg's...   :D
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: 75starflight on June 18, 2014, 08:12:14 AM
Okoboji would be fun...expensive, lots to do, super busy lakes, but fun. 

My only thought was that Emmetsburg would potentially be more welcoming to us since we'd be 'News'...Casino has a nice RV park, but the campground is essentially a city park...so not necessarily great there.

2 years with terrible bathrooms at a State Park and I've about had it, and who puts a campgound on a hill and doesn't level at least a tent spot (Iowans...that's who)...the other option is a Corps park at Rathbun...but Rathbun is a haul for anyone not in the Southern 1/2 of Iowa.

Anyway, I'm willing to check it out if people are interested.

I will say this, Thursday & Friday were amazing 'on the water' days...even if it took 200 yards for me to get on plane and I could only cruise at 28 mph...still great days.  (DNR left us alone too...well, except for the helicopter buzzing Travis.)

Now...about the Amberg's...   :D

Okoboji does look like fun, but VERY developed but a lot of places to explore. The nice thing is it would be about a four hour drive from Central City.  I do like Rathbun but, I am with Doran the restroom thing has been an issue the last two years. I did send an email to the DNR customer service about the issues from this year. I am curious to see if I get any response out of them.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: fireman24mn on June 18, 2014, 08:55:13 AM
Lake looks like it is pretty shallow.  http://www.iowadnr.gov/Portals/idnr/uploads/fish/maps/fis74.pdf (http://www.iowadnr.gov/Portals/idnr/uploads/fish/maps/fis74.pdf)

Thinking there would not be a lot of room to run multiple boats. I remember the lake just being long and skinny.

If Okoboji was chosen there is many different places to stay and the chain of lakes is pretty large. I have stayed by Arnolds Park area before and a couple of the campgrounds on the west side of the lake. We used to go over there a few times a year when I lived in IA
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: 75starflight on June 18, 2014, 09:23:06 AM
Lake looks like it is pretty shallow.  http://www.iowadnr.gov/Portals/idnr/uploads/fish/maps/fis74.pdf (http://www.iowadnr.gov/Portals/idnr/uploads/fish/maps/fis74.pdf)

Thinking there would not be a lot of room to run multiple boats. I remember the lake just being long and skinny.

If Okoboji was chosen there is many different places to stay and the chain of lakes is pretty large. I have stayed by Arnolds Park area before and a couple of the campgrounds on the west side of the lake. We used to go over there a few times a year when I lived in IA

I was reading yesterday on the Emmetsburg city web site that the lake is only a half mile wide and 4 miles long. Not much room to run IMO. I would say check out Okoboji in the fall at this point, and I would be happy to meet you there on a weekend to look it over.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: Jason on June 18, 2014, 09:29:32 AM
...even if it took 200 yards for me to get on plane and I could only cruise at 28 mph...still great days.

What dis I miss Doran? Does not sound good.

I think Okoboji would be great as well. A little closer for us MN/WI folks. Chains are always fun. I have not been out there but have always wanted to check it out.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 09:30:52 AM
Yeah, I'm not going to Okoboji...but, by all means, go for it.  Those lakes are crazy busy on the weekends, multiple deaths there, BWI arrests...no thanks.

I agree the area has a lot to offer, and Emmetsburg may be too small, but if you want 'room to run' Okoboji isn't it either.



Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 09:33:15 AM
...even if it took 200 yards for me to get on plane and I could only cruise at 28 mph...still great days.

What dis I miss Doran? Does not sound good.

I think Okoboji would be great as well. A little closer for us MN/WI folks. Chains are always fun. I have not been out there but have always wanted to check it out.

I have (what I'm sure) is a minor issue, in that I my accelerator pump gasket disintegrated, so I have no 'punch it' acceleration, but I also have no throttle speed either.  Engine starves for fuel at about 2k rpms...and I can't get it over that without the motor killing.

Mike H. is sending over his 898 carb from his CVZ (old motor) so I can try it.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: WetRaider on June 18, 2014, 09:34:08 AM
The advantage the state park had over the Corps of Engineers parks was the cabin availability and the extra wide boat ramp.  Even with "low" water, there are six lanes.  Last year's high water provided side-by-side room for 10 launches at the same time.  I think we've all made comments about how the tents were tipped just a bit. 
I can let the Rathbun Lake Area Chamber of Commerce know about the bathroom issues.  They aren't DNR, but if they feel that they've lost visitors because of it, they might get some new voices in the discussion.  Hard to get a state agency to move forward on anything.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: Jason on June 18, 2014, 09:35:13 AM
Thought you got your carb rebuild?
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: 75starflight on June 18, 2014, 09:46:19 AM
Yeah, I'm not going to Okoboji...but, by all means, go for it.  Those lakes are crazy busy on the weekends, multiple deaths there, BWI arrests...no thanks.

I agree the area has a lot to offer, and Emmetsburg may be too small, but if you want 'room to run' Okoboji isn't it either.

If that is the case, I would say not there either!
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: iowa cv-23 on June 18, 2014, 09:52:27 AM
Yeah, I'm not going to Okoboji...but, by all means, go for it.  Those lakes are crazy busy on the weekends, multiple deaths there, BWI arrests...no thanks.

I agree the area has a lot to offer, and Emmetsburg may be too small, but if you want 'room to run' Okoboji isn't it either.


Have to agree  - my in-laws have a place on East Okoboji & left Sparkly up there for a summer a few years back.  For the most part the boating was not very enjoyable as the lakes were often very choppy & there are a ton of "ocean liners" on the water that put out major wakes.  However, if you do decide to go Okoboji you could have a boat show at the Arnolds Park docks, they have an existing boat show that I crashed that was pretty cool - everyone ties up their boats & the public comes out all day to check it out.  Other then the docks their really isn't a great area where everyone could beach.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: kert0307 on June 18, 2014, 10:10:41 AM
There's also Red Rock up here north of Rathbun. Lots of camp grounds to choose from and a few beaches. It's not commercialized, so it doesn't get busy like Saylorville, Okoboji, Clear Lake, ect.

It's easier to get to also since it's just off of the four lane Hwy163.

It is larger though, so if it's windy it will get rough, but it almost always will calm down in the evening at least.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 10:18:18 AM
There's also Red Rock up here north of Rathbun. Lots of camp grounds to choose from and a few beaches. It's not commercialized, so it doesn't get busy like Saylorville, Okoboji, Clear Lake, ect.

It's easier to get to also since it's just off of the four lane Hwy163.

It is larger though, so if it's windy it will get rough, but it almost always will calm down in the evening at least.

Red Rock would work...saves an hour off everyone's travel, and 4 lanes all the way too.  A little busier than Rathbun, but it could work.

I could be ok with Rathbun again, but I won't be camping at that campground again.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 10:21:28 AM
I'm going to split this topic off the 'Picture thread one'...hang on...
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 10:25:13 AM
Ok, resume ideas!

My thoughts for looking 'Up North' was only something in the N/W quadrant of the stat would be a good central spot for everyone...
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: 75starflight on June 18, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
There's also Red Rock up here north of Rathbun. Lots of camp grounds to choose from and a few beaches. It's not commercialized, so it doesn't get busy like Saylorville, Okoboji, Clear Lake, ect.

It's easier to get to also since it's just off of the four lane Hwy163.

It is larger though, so if it's windy it will get rough, but it almost always will calm down in the evening at least.

Red Rock would work...saves an hour off everyone's travel, and 4 lanes all the way too.  A little busier than Rathbun, but it could work.

I could be ok with Rathbun again, but I won't be camping at that campground again.

I am with Doran, Red Rock would work and it does save on drive time even for me.

Rathbun I am ok with going back to again, but a different campground is a must.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: WetRaider on June 18, 2014, 10:45:25 AM
Red Rock has some pretty shoreline to follow it's not too far different from Rathbun in size, so plenty of room for boats.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: sledneck67 on June 18, 2014, 02:07:37 PM
What about having a meet in Il.thats about the middle for everyone in Iowa and Minnesota.We have the Chain-o-lakes  here with a nice state camp ground and boat ramp.Plenty of places to tie up boats and swim  or places to eat all around the lakes and channels.There is an Island with a bar that has boat races every Thursday,and bands.Maybe an idea.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 02:20:13 PM
What about having a meet in Il.thats about the middle for everyone in Iowa and Minnesota.We have the Chain-o-lakes  here with a nice state camp ground and boat ramp.Plenty of places to tie up boats and swim  or places to eat all around the lakes and channels.There is an Island with a bar that has boat races every Thursday,and bands.Maybe an idea.

The middle of everyone in Iowa & MN isn't IL!  HA!   Besides...not really an Iowa meet if its 150+ miles into IL...

Plus, trying to find a place that's reasonable for the NE group since they outnumbered the rest of us...if you'd like to host an IL meet by all means!  But the Iowa meet isn't going to be in IL.

Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: 75starflight on June 18, 2014, 02:47:00 PM
You know with views like this at Red Rock

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_h0EzTOIReQ/TdnHurUIJOI/AAAAAAAAApQ/y-HoaHxD8Ys/s640/2011-05-21+025.jpg)

I vote we hold the Iowa meet there!
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 03:15:06 PM
Red Rock Lake is nice.

I'm game...easy drive for everyone...much easier to get to than Rathbun.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 03:27:45 PM
And just to temper your excitement Brandon...that picture is like the 1 Red Rock.  :D  It's basically Rathbun, a little father North, a little busier (especially on a weekend), and without a cool resort to eat at...
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: 75starflight on June 18, 2014, 04:02:53 PM
And just to temper your excitement Brandon...picture is like the 1 Red Rock.  :D  It's basically Rathbun, a little father North, a little busier (especially on a weekend), and without a cool resort to eat at...

doesn't really matter to me. as I stated before I like Rathbun and may be all we need is a new campground to try.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 08:17:41 PM
Talked to a few people, the feeling is that Rathbun gives us the most open water (ie. least busiest) to play with...and that was definitely true this weekend as well.

We had a couple drive down from Des Moines to meet Red even...and the regular campers know we're there...so we're going to stick with it.  We might move a bit North though for some added wind protection, and to be closer to the bathrooms in case one is out of commission again.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: iowa cv-23 on June 18, 2014, 09:16:14 PM
just wondering what everyone thinks about voting on a location and creating a poll for the 2015 Iowa rally? I am somewhat interested in Red Rock, and it sounded like some folks are interested in Okoboji....just seeing what the thoughts are on moving to a more "democratic process"?
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 18, 2014, 09:19:08 PM
just wondering what everyone thinks about voting on a location and creating a poll for the 2015 Iowa rally? I am somewhat interested in Red Rock, and it sounded like some folks are interested in Okoboji....just seeing what the thoughts are on moving to a more "democratic process"?

Fine by me...you want a poll?

Rathbun, Red Rock, Okoboji? 

The only problem with polls is that what ever wins...that means those voting for it need to go!
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: iowa cv-23 on June 18, 2014, 09:46:33 PM
just wondering what everyone thinks about voting on a location and creating a poll for the 2015 Iowa rally? I am somewhat interested in Red Rock, and it sounded like some folks are interested in Okoboji....just seeing what the thoughts are on moving to a more "democratic process"?

Fine by me...you want a poll?

Rathbun, Red Rock, Okoboji? 


The only problem with polls is that what ever wins...that means those voting for it need to go!


Good point, I'm not sure how many members our group has & there have only been a handful of members that have attended the Iowa rallys (just an observation not a "why haven't there been more folks at the Iowa Rallys?!?")...so should the voting be limited to those that are honestly thinking about the 2015 Rally (&how would you even police that?), or limit the voting to those that have been there in the past?
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: 75starflight on June 19, 2014, 11:23:31 AM
Talked to a few people, the feeling is that Rathbun gives us the most open water (ie. least busiest) to play with...and that was definitely true this weekend as well.

We had a couple drive down from Des Moines to meet Red even...and the regular campers know we're there...so we're going to stick with it.  We might move a bit North though for some added wind protection, and to be closer to the bathrooms in case one is out of commission again.

Just some more food for thought on why we should go back to Rathbun. With the south bath house down I walked several times to the north bath house. And me being me I will just stop and talk to people. There were several people I talked with that knew we were down there and said they enjoyed looking at our boats every year and how it was always so much fun to see our group there enjoying the lake.

So, we are known to have a presence at Honey Creek State Park by the people that frequent it after just 3 yearly meets. I would say that is a good thing and we need to keep the meet there and increase our presence.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: thedeuceman on June 19, 2014, 12:26:15 PM
Yes the water/bathroom thing was a drag, the tent spots arnt perfectly flat, its a long drive to get there, and it is a long haul up and down the hill when beached.
there are going to be drawbacks wherever we meet, my 2 cents...
Rathbun is a great lake to run on when its not too windy, Friday was perfect, and only the second time i have had the chance to burn an entire tank of gas this year.
that alone was totally worth the trip, and connecting with you folks is great.
wherever the meet takes place we will plan to be there.
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: dorelse on June 19, 2014, 03:13:18 PM
My current thinking is this...ideally, a lake that is relatively unused, is easy to access & launch from, and gives us the ability to put the hammer down, and beach when we want to.

For the most part, Rathbun is that lake. 

Brandon had the idea of moving up away from the beach by the entrance, flat campsites & easy boat parking along the road, and both bathrooms/shower stations are nearby if one breaks again.

It fits the bill probably better than any of the others...so I'm for going back.  I'll most likely be in a camper rental next year.  The general says she's a go if we do that...so, there ya go. 
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: 75starflight on June 19, 2014, 03:21:43 PM
My current thinking is this...ideally, a lake that is relatively unused, is easy to access & launch from, and gives us the ability to put the hammer down, and beach when we want to.

For the most part, Rathbun is that lake. 

Brandon had the idea of moving up away from the beach by the entrance, flat campsites & easy boat parking along the road, and both bathrooms/shower stations are nearby if one breaks again.

It fits the bill probably better than any of the others...so I'm for going back.  I'll most likely be in a camper rental next year.  The general says she's a go if we do that...so, there ya go.
Same here!
Title: Re: 2015 CGOAIA Meet Planning
Post by: Fawkes on June 19, 2014, 10:03:15 PM
I vote we keep going to Rathbun Lake.