Author Topic: Huge hole in hull! (Read 43264 times)

Jason · « **Reply #100 on:** November 17, 2013, 03:59:00 PM »

Here is one other boat repair place recommend by someone I know.

Boatworks
John Monahan
14753 Iris Road
Little Falls, MN 56345
320 - 632-4473

Jerry · « **Reply #101 on:** November 17, 2013, 04:38:36 PM »

John builds classic boats. I don't think he does repairs. It's not all that hard to do if you get the floor out.

ski machine · « **Reply #102 on:** November 18, 2013, 03:42:44 AM »

This video shows me taking the same path (but reversed and planed out) that was the site of the accident and damage.
http://youtu.be/nH4Ejlajoko

Hyperacme · « **Reply #103 on:** November 18, 2013, 09:11:42 AM »

Might be cheaper to swap hulls ...

1981 Glastron Carlson boat outboard *RUNNING* with trailer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Glastron-Carlson-boat-outboard-RUNNING-with-trailer-/151167205446?vxp=mtr

His starting bid was $3000 last time ...

ski machine · « **Reply #104 on:** November 18, 2013, 10:12:39 AM »

Quote from: Hyperacme on November 18, 2013, 09:11:42 AM

Might be cheaper to swap hulls ...

1981 Glastron Carlson boat outboard *RUNNING* with trailer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Glastron-Carlson-boat-outboard-RUNNING-with-trailer-/151167205446?vxp=mtr

His starting bid was $3000 last time ...

Not sure if I'm following you.. are you suggesting that I might be better off trying to get the metric on ebay and replace my 'wrecked' hull (bottom) with the ebay bottom? I would then have the same boat plus half of the same boat again (and the second motor)?

If I were to win the ebay Metric, I don't believe I would be able to 'take from Peter to pay Paul'.... I would end up with my Blue Beauty in a barn and the ebay Metric out on the water with me.

It seems weird but looking at his Metric, I feel no pull, no love... It's the same boat as mine but it 'feels' weird to me... and who the hell is this guy anyway? That's MY BOAT!

oops.... sorry.... I'm kinda testy when someone is out dating my 'wifes twin sister' and pimping her off after a ride...

(I should talk to somebody... lol... )

At least his isn't in Texas or California or Maine... I could actually be there and back in a day.

Hyperacme · « **Reply #105 on:** November 18, 2013, 01:21:48 PM »

Not sure if it would work BUT ...
My deck was faded, but hull was in very good condition, I think because the sun never was beating down on it. Flake (on hull) looked like new with just a quick buff job ...
Might be the same as this C500 ?

Hard to tell how bad your hull is from pictures, but from what I've read you'll have to rip the floor up to do the repairs on your hull, unless some one knows how to do it from the outside ... All the holes/rips in your hull would have to be ground out and when fiber glassing is done, it would need to be gel coated on the out side. So hull swap would save you money on the hull repair.

With either hull you might find that there's some wood rot, and you could repair it then.

ski machine · « **Reply #106 on:** November 19, 2013, 12:53:33 PM »

I'm keeping an eye on the Metric on ebay, it's at $2,500 something now... if financially possible, it WOULD be a good buy, though I wouldn't use it to repair my boats hull. I couldn't break up a Metric that is in good running order to fix one that is not. The fact that it's actually close enough for me to drive to and return with in a day is a big factor as well. Usually everything I want is in Texas or Florida (like SKI Machines)

V153 · « **Reply #107 on:** November 19, 2013, 08:18:06 PM »

I got one I'll let go for a lil less than $2500 ...

With trailor ...

David CVX-16 · « **Reply #108 on:** November 19, 2013, 08:43:12 PM »

But your Florida boat has to be $2,500 destination Fargo, ND.

Jerry · « **Reply #109 on:** November 19, 2013, 10:15:55 PM »

We're coming down in March, but we'll have a boat behind us.

Crebb · « **Reply #110 on:** November 25, 2013, 01:52:07 PM »

Hello Ski Machine (and other CGOAMN buds),
You contacted me when I was on vacation. Told you I would check in when I got back home. Just looked through this thread and looked at all your photos. What a beautiful boat, way nicer than the C-500 I am working on. Is that the original interior? Incredible! The rip in the bottom makes my eyes hurt, ugh. I have to agree with what all these guys are telling you, they sure put me on the right track. Unless you take it to a professional shop, the floor has to come out. I have a bunch of photos of my C-500 with the floor out if you want them. When I cut the floor I stayed about an inch away from the stringer edge so I would not punch through and then cleaned it up close after the floor was out and I could see exactly where the hull was. Good to be back here. I'm starting on the C-500 again next week. Still cleaning deer this week. Oh yea, I bought another Carlson this fall. CVX-16 with 85 HP Johnson Javlen in orange and yellow color scheme.
Crebb

GCarlover · « **Reply #111 on:** December 22, 2013, 08:50:23 PM »

I was right about the Glastron factory near Santonio but it was also near Austin. Here's a quote from Offshore Only and the site asking about it: Quote:
There are a ton of molds still sitting at the old factory on IH 35 near San Antonio. They're all just racked up and sitting outside....have been for years. Wouldn't know for sure about the one you're looking for though
That would be the old plant in New Braunfels (last reply)
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/282012-glastron-carlson-cvx-molds.html

I'm guessing some went to Little Falls MN to the Larson plant. If you can find out where the metrics were made that would be a start to making a new hull. Otherwise I would get someone to shave off the bottom and re-design the pad. In the meantime have fun with the 86 Carlson and have a Happy Holiday!

PS. Read my post on Another Prop today. If your Merc is one of the first 140s re-rated to 115 hp the compression is high and so is the power. They took all the left over Inline 150s (Not sure of the difference though) and made them 140s and then 115s when the Black Max V 6 150 HP came out.

catchnedge · « **Reply #112 on:** December 23, 2013, 08:38:02 AM »

Quote from: GCarlover on December 22, 2013, 08:50:23 PM

I was right about the Glastron factory near Santonio but it was also near Austin. Here's a quote from Offshore Only and the site asking about it: Quote:
There are a ton of molds still sitting at the old factory on IH 35 near San Antonio. They're all just racked up and sitting outside....have been for years. Wouldn't know for sure about the one you're looking for though
That would be the old plant in New Braunfels (last reply)
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/282012-glastron-carlson-cvx-molds.html

I drive past and look at the old plant/HQ in New Braunfels almost daily (intersection of IH35 & Loop 337), and always wonder if there are any molds sitting in those fields/yards or tucked behind a building somewhere, but have never seen any. I intend to drop by and inquire some day when I have time.

Jerry · « **Reply #113 on:** December 23, 2013, 10:49:16 AM »

I wish I had a good video of doing a hand lay-up of a hull. First old molds are normally bad and need a lot of work before anything can be done with them. The time and money that would go into it is just way more than anyone could ever want to do. If you go to Kevin Muller's websight you can get some of it. http://boatsinthebelfry.com/ Dave Merks made a mold of a Glass Slipper (a one of a kind) some of the pictures are there, and they also did a mold of a Cadillac Sea Lark hull. It was originally a plywood hull that they copied in fiberglass. Unless you have the shop, the equipment and the knowledge to do it. - - go for plan B.

Hyperacme · « **Reply #114 on:** December 23, 2013, 12:48:05 PM »

What Jerry said X2 !
Would be a HUGE undertaking even if mold was brand new ...

ski machine · « **Reply #115 on:** May 02, 2014, 03:18:36 AM »

Good News! I found a Fiberglass man who has agreed to 'block it in' this June so I can get her on the water. He asked me not to give his name because he normally wouldn't do a rough job and doesn't want to be swamped by requests for quick-rough jobs.... He estimates the price will be $500 on the condition that I bring it back to him in the fall so he can do a real repair/restore on her.

Note: he plans on removing the motor and tipping her on her side and working from the outside. Thank god I didn't cut the floor out over the winter like I had been considering! Sometimes it's better to walk away from a project for a few months rather than go of half-cocked.... I'll post pix when she's ready.

dorelse · « **Reply #116 on:** May 02, 2014, 09:16:40 AM »

I think most of us still think the floor has to come out...all that foam is now saturated with water and will eventually start to rot out your stringers.

Plus, I'd want it repaired & strengthened from the floor side as well as the outside...but that's just me.

You can do the floor work now, or do the floor, stingers and transom later...just my 2 cents.

(Chris, got your pm...no, no picture...there's nothing attached to your reply, so no picture to display.)

Hyperacme · « **Reply #117 on:** May 02, 2014, 11:22:51 AM »

How can he fix it from the out side ?

fireman24mn · « **Reply #118 on:** May 02, 2014, 03:01:10 PM »

It could be fixed from the out side. It just will have to be a very large repair area to spread out the layers of glass. It would ultimately be best to do it from both sides. Would be much stronger and better repair. I fixed a corvette hood one time that they scooped up with a shovel . There was a huge hole where they slid into a tree. You can do a lot with fiberglass

OleRed · « **Reply #119 on:** May 02, 2014, 11:23:52 PM »

that would be a "patch" why not do it right the first time ?
Lift the floor, expose the damaged area, block the outside, rpair the damage from the inside, thats the Only way to make it look right and be structuraly strong.
You need to remove All the water "moisture" that entered the hull, if you don't do that, you will be in for a Lot more work when the job is done right, don't take any short cuts just to save a few bucks, will cost you more next year, or break your boat, it needs to be repaired from the inside, anything less than that is just a patch to make it float. just my two cents.