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Offline jermcdowell

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72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« on: November 17, 2015, 08:08:47 AM »
Anyone out there have a 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser in it?  Iím trying to make the switch plates for the dash and I havenít been able to find any pictures of one.  The Mercruiser is different that the Volvo Penta.  It has a separate switch panel for the tilt & trim, mounted near the controller.  I have only been able to find pictures of the Volvo Penta switch plate.   I donít know what they did in place of the in & out switch on the Mercruiser.   

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1972 Glastron Carlson CV-16SS with 120 Mercruiser IO
Modified to 150hp

1992 Ercoa 19ft Pontoon, 50hp Honda (needs more hp)

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2015, 10:00:20 AM »
It may have been done with two separate toggle switches like my 74. I know the 72-73 had a different style dash but may have still been two toggles. I might have a picture of Tom's Blue 73 CV16SS dash somewhere. Will have to look.

72: no plastic dash
73: plastic dash but does not wrap down to where toggles are
74-76: plastic dash as below

74 (two toggles next to steering wheel:
Jason S.
1974 Glastron Carlson CV16SS 140 I/O
1986 Glastron Carlson CV23 260 I/O

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2015, 01:26:00 PM »
Couldn't find any pictures of Merc. three button trim installed.

Pictures #1 & #2   are 1972 CV16SS with Volvo drives.
Pictures #3 & #4   are 1973 CV16SS with Volvo drives.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 01:51:03 PM by Hyperacme »
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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 01:26:34 PM »
Picture #1   is 1974 CV16SS with Mercruisier.
Picture #2   is 1975 CV16SS with Mercruisier.
Picture #3   is 1975 CV16V8 with Volvo drive.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 01:34:07 PM by Hyperacme »
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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2015, 01:40:01 PM »
1973 Glastron Carlson CV-16SS YouTube video.

https://youtu.be/83cbhJ_-8Xc
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 02:07:40 PM by Hyperacme »
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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2015, 02:14:04 PM »
What is different between mercruiser and volvo switch plate then? Looks like as long as you have the molded dash you get toggle switches.

Looks like Sean's old 75 CV16SS with a volvo had toggles as well.
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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2015, 04:46:33 PM »
Thanks guys
It looks like the 74 is different than the 72 or 73.  Here is my problem.  My 72 CV-16SS was missing the dash altogether so I had to make a new one.  I also made one for my brother in-laws 73 CV-SS16.  The dash is the same but his has the Volvo Penta.  The Penta only has tilt not trim; so Glastron put the tilt switch in the dash.  It’s the switch on the far left in the three switch panel.   My 72 has the three switch panel with tilt & trim together mounted next to the control box because the Mercruiser has tilt & trim. Did they also put the tilt switch in the dash for the Mercruiser as well as the three switch panel next to the control box?  I don’t know.  I have not been able to find a good close up picture of one.   

Attached is the dash that I made for my Brother In-law and the Volvo Penta switch plate


« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 04:52:47 PM by jermcdowell »
1972 Glastron Carlson CV-16SS with 120 Mercruiser IO
Modified to 150hp

1992 Ercoa 19ft Pontoon, 50hp Honda (needs more hp)

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2015, 08:03:28 PM »
I'll have to go out to my boat in storage to get you some better pictures. To the RH side of the steering wheel you have horn, dash lights, and navigation lights. ON the LH side of the steering wheel you have blower, trim, and tilt. I rewired mine though so tilt and trim are on the same toggle. Basically bypasses the trim limit switch. Sometimes you just need a little more trim and trying to lift up on two toggles at the same time at full speed is a little tuff.

The trim switch on mine is where the horn is on the Volvo drives. So does the Volvo only have two toggles to the right of the steering wheel?
Jason S.
1974 Glastron Carlson CV16SS 140 I/O
1986 Glastron Carlson CV23 260 I/O

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 10:30:44 PM »
Here are the Volvo switch plates.  Left of the steering wheel is tilt, horn and blower.  On the right of the steering wheel are running lights & anchor lights on one switch, Panel lights and bulge pump on the second switch and Accessory on and off, on the third switch. 

The other attachment is how my 72 is. The tilt & trim is mounted next to the controller.  Itís not that easy to work either.

Thanks for checking your dash.  I hope that it is easy to get to.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 10:35:43 PM by jermcdowell »
1972 Glastron Carlson CV-16SS with 120 Mercruiser IO
Modified to 150hp

1992 Ercoa 19ft Pontoon, 50hp Honda (needs more hp)

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2015, 08:00:01 AM »
One question, could you upgrade your control handle to a different style that would have the trim/tilt switches built in?

I had the same toggle switch setup on Phoenix my V-179 and was able to find a replacement handle with the switches built in so I now have the ability to trim without taking my hand off the wheel.
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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2015, 08:19:05 AM »
Yes that would make it allot easier to work the tilt & trim all of my boats have been that way.   The thing is that this Carlson is 43 years old and itís a classic.  I love these old boats and it is important to me to keep it as original as possible.  That is why I am trying to get the switch plateís wright and that is why I joined the Classic Glastron forum.  I also plan to join the association this spring when my boat is finished.
1972 Glastron Carlson CV-16SS with 120 Mercruiser IO
Modified to 150hp

1992 Ercoa 19ft Pontoon, 50hp Honda (needs more hp)

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2015, 09:23:37 AM »
Would be very interested in hearing how you made the plastic dash, it looks very nice.

How about something like this ?

http://thmarine.com/th-marine-products/outboard-tilt-and-trim/trim-switches-for-tilt-and-trim


Gregg
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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2015, 10:57:07 AM »
Where your ACC is is where my horn is and where your horn is is where my trim is.

I agree, keep it as original as possible!

Hope to get pictures tonight.
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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2015, 12:12:22 PM »
I actually have the original trim button.  Iím just wonder what they did with the switch panel in place of the tilt switch because my 72 Mercruiser has a separate tilt & trim button switch in a different location next to the control box.  Did they keep it on the dash too?   That would be two ways to tilt the outdrive. 

As for the dash.  I made a fiber glass mold out of my brother in-laws broken 73 CV-16SS Volvo Penta.  I then cast a new dash, using carbon fiber.  Itís very strong and looks original.

I still have the mold and will be making a dash for another member that needs one for their 73 CV-16SS with the Volvo Penta.
1972 Glastron Carlson CV-16SS with 120 Mercruiser IO
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1992 Ercoa 19ft Pontoon, 50hp Honda (needs more hp)

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2015, 12:23:37 PM »
I actually have the original trim button.  Iím just wonder what they did with the switch panel in place of the tilt switch because my 72 Mercruiser has a separate tilt & trim button switch in a different location next to the control box.  Did they keep it on the dash too?   That would be two ways to tilt the outdrive. 

Mercruiser has Trim and Tilt switches. Just like how the mercury 3 button  trim switch Gregg posted earlier does. The trim toggle moves it all the way down and up till the trim limit switches stops it from moving. When you want to go higher than that (tilt it out of the water) You lift up on both the trim and tilt toggles. So to answer your question, The Mercury tilt switch is where the Volvo tilt switch is on the Volvo plate. Does that make sense?
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1986 Glastron Carlson CV23 260 I/O

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2015, 01:34:57 PM »
" As for the dash.  I made a fiber glass mold out of my brother in-laws broken 73 CV-16SS Volvo Penta.  I then cast a new dash, using carbon fiber.  Itís very strong and looks original. "

YA ! ... It looks GREAT !
Did you do the same for the glove box door and inside compartment ?
Gregg
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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2015, 04:49:46 PM »
Can't offer much to the conversation about your problem/question, but I have to give a +1 to hyperacme's comment that your new dash with all the nice updates looks fabulous.  Nice work!

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2015, 06:56:11 PM »
To answer Hyperacmeís question.  For my brother in-laws dash, I used the glove box door and the glove box from his old dash. (Picture of his is attached) 

For my dash I had to make everything, I have a mold for the door as well.

I have also attached a picture of my trim switches.  The three buttons run the tilt and trim.  The out lifts it all the way out for trailering.  Nor sure why they would put an out switch on the dash too but maybe they did.
1972 Glastron Carlson CV-16SS with 120 Mercruiser IO
Modified to 150hp

1992 Ercoa 19ft Pontoon, 50hp Honda (needs more hp)

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Re: 72 or 73 CV-16SS with a Mercruiser, Need pictuers of the dash
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2015, 07:44:50 PM »
Very nicely done !
One more question ...
Can we see some pictures of your CV's ?
Gregg
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