Glastron Carlson CV23 Restoration

[frankdevrieslentsch]

Hi guys, I'm Frank. I live in the Netherlands, and I am in the beginning of my restoration. I first want to have a plan about how I am going to do this, before I go any further.
I found this CV23 in a city that is called Alphen aan den Rijn, I was driving my little boat on the river de Rijn. I saw it standing in sombody's backyard, and I thought is that really what i think it is. I took some pictures, and looked it up on internet and then I saw that it really was a Glastron Carlson CV23. After some asking around by a friend of mine that lives in that town, I heard that it was for sale. I went that same week to the owners and looked at it. I saw that it was completly rotten, and the owners asked 4000 euros for it. I bid them 800 euro, and a week later they called me that it was ok. I picked it up with the tractor because the trailer was to bad for towing it with a car.
When I came home everybody thought I was crazy for buying an old rotten boat . I told them that they were crazy that they don't liked it. I gave it a good clean and parked it inside. After I took the interior out of it, and inspected the engine I saw that the engine was seeced. I took the engine out of it, and sold it.
After that I builded a cradle for the boat to sit on, because the trailer was real bad.
And now I have removed the floor and I am making a plan to do this restoration.

I am thinking that I just going to do this resto with wood and poly. And I want to set the transom back and raise the drive a bit for more speed.

But I have a lot of questions:
1) I'm thinking about making the new floor lower, for more interior room. Is this a good idea?
2)What kind of fiberglass cloth is good to use? I never used biax cloth or something, I only used CSM and very light woven.
3)What is smart to glue the stringers in the hull? I saw people use PL, peanut butter, 3M 5200 and more.

I have more questions but they come later.

How do I post pictures? Because I have a lot of pictures off the process so far.


Frank

[Hyperacme]

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[Glastronjohn18]

Welcome Frank. We're looking forward to seeing some pictures and following your restoration. Thank you for saving another Glastron Carlson. When you are done you will make believers out of the naysayers.

[fireman24mn]

Frank,

It sounds like you bought a boat that is in the same condition as the one I am restoring. I am done with  the lower half of the hull, I sharpened the strakes removed all the hook and I am raising the engine and drive 2 inches. 

My floor is pretty much done. I have posted lots of pics here is the Thread for the rebuild.

http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=3740.0

[fireman24mn]

Also to answer a couple questions for you.

1 The floor is actually raised to give more room if you lower it the floor width would get narrower. These boats have the same width as a CVX-18 but seem much bigger because of the floor being higher in the hull.

2. Cloth is up to you each person has their own opinion. I used double biax to tie in the stringers to hull and where the floor meets the hull on the edges. I bedded the stringers with a resin cabisol mix(peanut butter). Then used just regular cloth on the outside of the floor.

Good luck with the rebuild!!

[frankdevrieslentsch]

Thanks for the reply's!
The first pictures are from where the boat was standing for the last ten years on the property of the past owner. The other pictures are that I brought the boat home, that I washed it, of the engine and that I started on it to take things out.

[frankdevrieslentsch]

Part two

[dorelse]

That is the weirdest trailer...why is it up 6ft in the air?

[frankdevrieslentsch]

That is the weirdest trailer...why is it up 6ft in the air?

I don't get that either, that's why I build the cradle.

[dorelse]

Yeah, guess that's why you used the tractor too then...should be a great boat when you're all done!

[frankdevrieslentsch]

The final part.

[frankdevrieslentsch]

Also to answer a couple questions for you.

1 The floor is actually raised to give more room if you lower it the floor width would get narrower. These boats have the same width as a CVX-18 but seem much bigger because of the floor being higher in the hull.

2. Cloth is up to you each person has their own opinion. I used double biax to tie in the stringers to hull and where the floor meets the hull on the edges. I bedded the stringers with a resin cabisol mix(peanut butter). Then used just regular cloth on the outside of the floor.

Good luck with the rebuild!!

I saw that some people put a spacer between the stringer and the hull, while they glue them in. Did you put a spacer between the stringer and the hull?

Frank

[Oldfishguy]

Frank

Welcome.

It looks like you are past the ugly part of removing all the rotted material, the rest is kind of fun.

Question 1:  I would leave the floor height where it was designed.  Changing designs adds a complication to this process.  Focus on what is the logical and simplest way to fix it. 

Question 2:  You will use several different thickness of fiberglass cloth.  The heavy stuff for main structural support, medium for connections of stringers to the hull, and a lightweight fiberglass one piece for a top coat over the decking material.

Question 3:  Resin coat everything, no wood below the deck should be exposed.  Resin the stingers in and then fiberglass them in.  Coat the underside of the deck with resin as well.

There are a lot of ways to do this rebuild and many will be correct.  Dry fit your flooring before you start mixing resin though; there are some odd angles to the keel beam and stringers that are much easier to correctly fit out of the boat.  Just dig in and learn along the way. 

Best of luck.

David

http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=5298.msg71670#msg71670

[frankdevrieslentsch]

Frank

Welcome.

It looks like you are past the ugly part of removing all the rotted material, the rest is kind of fun.

Question 1:  I would leave the floor height where it was designed.  Changing designs adds a complication to this process.  Focus on what is the logical and simplest way to fix it. 

Question 2:  You will use several different thickness of fiberglass cloth.  The heavy stuff for main structural support, medium for connections of stringers to the hull, and a lightweight fiberglass one piece for a top coat over the decking material.

Question 3:  Resin coat everything, no wood below the deck should be exposed.  Resin the stingers in and then fiberglass them in.  Coat the underside of the deck with resin as well.

There are a lot of ways to do this rebuild and many will be correct.  Dry fit your flooring before you start mixing resin though; there are some odd angles to the keel beam and stringers that are much easier to correctly fit out of the boat.  Just dig in and learn along the way. 

Best of luck.

David

http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=5298.msg71670#msg71670

Your boat looks awesome!

[fireman24mn]

Also to answer a couple questions for you.

1 The floor is actually raised to give more room if you lower it the floor width would get narrower. These boats have the same width as a CVX-18 but seem much bigger because of the floor being higher in the hull.

2. Cloth is up to you each person has their own opinion. I used double biax to tie in the stringers to hull and where the floor meets the hull on the edges. I bedded the stringers with a resin cabisol mix(peanut butter). Then used just regular cloth on the outside of the floor.

Good luck with the rebuild!!

I saw that some people put a spacer between the stringer and the hull, while they glue them in. Did you put a spacer between the stringer and the hull?

Frank

No I did not I just put a layer of PB down and then set the stringer into it. Then I used a plastic spoon to smooth the edge and give it a nice curve. Then before it hardened I layed the glass on the stringer to the floor so everything could bond together.

The original design on the stringers I did not like so I modified mine some. The stringers from the factory were split up a lot and not continuous. I made mine as all as long as I could and also made it so the cross braces locked into the stringers. If you look threw my thread you will see what I am talking about.

[fireman24mn]

If you crawl underneath and look at the bottom of the hull about where the cuddy floor starts you will probably see some stress cracks. A lot of the 23's I have seen have stress cracks in the hull in this area. Again one of the reasons i changes a few things and added a couple more to mine.

[frankdevrieslentsch]

If you crawl underneath and look at the bottom of the hull about where the cuddy floor starts you will probably see some stress cracks. A lot of the 23's I have seen have stress cracks in the hull in this area. Again one of the reasons i changes a few things and added a couple more to mine.

You mean the little stringer under the cabinfloor that you added? I think that I'm add one too, how stronger how better!

[OleRed]

That is the weirdest trailer...why is it up 6ft in the air?

I don't get that either, that's why I build the cradle.

it was built adjustable for a sail boat

[V153]

That is the weirdest trailer...why is it up 6ft in the air?

I don't get that either, that's why I build the cradle.

it was built adjustable for a sail boat

Looks more to me like the bottom half of a ballistic missile launcher ... But what do I know ...

[nes-cv23]

What do you have planed for the out drive?   Omc back in? Mercruiser? Or maybe a duel prop?   How about the motor? Bigger? Better? And don't forget more POWER!    We all know someone who put twin jets in one..   Nows the time to have fun with all of it....