Minnesota Classic Glastron Forum
General Category => Members Profiles / Introductions => Topic started by: ces308 on December 25, 2019, 11:41:22 AM
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Hello ! I am a new member here and have a 1974 CV-16 that I have owned since new ! I am taking care of her needs that 46 years have taken from her. Everything was pretty good but for the transom I just replaced. I need to do some metal flaking to repair what was fixed. Does anyone know what color flake will match the green they used in'74??
Thank you for any information you mite have!
chris ambrose ces308@ldaco.com
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Here are some pictures of the restoration....
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Another...
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I raised the transom height 2” for the prop I’m running on my 115hp Mercury....prop is a 14x22 super cup prop. It now puts my cavitation plate even with the bottom.
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Welcome to the forum Chris !
You could try Roth .. https://rothmetalflake.com/collections/metal-flake
There are also some company's on eBay ..
Send for some samples.
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Thanks Greg. I ordered some lime greed squeezer.... I think that might work . I’m hoping I can paint and blend if it’s close enough.... I’ll update as it progresses..
Chris
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You could also try vintage flake. He sells stuff for old snowmobiles. I bought mine from him he is the only one I could find that carried square flake. Most likely that is what is on your boat.
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Is this the company you got yours from Jeff ?
https://www.ebay.com/str/Vintage-Sled-Paint?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
I have my cavitation plate is about 2 inches above bottom of hull, works pretty good.
Also running a 22P Laser II prop, getting 52 to 54 mph / GPS.
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Yes
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CV-16 update..... I’ve been busy working on the boat... finally got it painted! I ended up using Moss green .015 metal flake and the match was good ! Once I paint under the splash well I will start installing the carpet. I found the burl wood vinyl fabric for the seat bottoms and it looks like it’s supposed to! If anyone is looking for something like that, let me know. Here are some pictures of what I’ve been doing....
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More pictures
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Pickle Rocket! Looks fantastic, great idea on the transom raising, looks like it might also help keep some of the water out of the splash well. Let us know how that works out when you get it out on the water.
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Looks GREAT !
See you still have the wood decal on side !
With motor lifted are you still able to use your cable steering ?
I found this Burl wood a few years ago, pretty close match.
https://www.metrorestyling.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=burlwood
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Hello Greg... I found some of the Burl Wood vinyl fabric from a place in Chicago and bought 3 yards of it for the seat bottoms and it's a good match. my side wood is good. What thickness is your transom plate? I want to bend one up for mine before I install the engine.
chris
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Greg...I have the rack and pinion steering and it's not a problem raising the engine... your seat bottom looks good ! putting the carpet in first then I'll do the seat bottoms...
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Plate .. I think your referring to .. is a "Transom Wedge" ..
https://thmarinesupplies.com/collections/cmc-marine-products/products/cmc-transom-wedges-2-degree
After lifting my motor, tilt cylinder was blocking splash well drain hole, this was the cheapest & easiest way to get clearance.
Also have one on inside of splash well.
Machined Transom Support Plates ..
https://thmarinesupplies.com/collections/cmc-marine-products/products/cmc-machined-transom-support-plates
Wish I had known about this one .. Might get one some day ..
Static Jack Plate 2-1/2 inch ..
https://thmarinesupplies.com/collections/cmc-marine-products/products/cmc-static-jack-plate-2-1-2-inch
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Greg ...the wrap you putting on...is that stick on like paper? I tried some stuff that ended up being a shelf liner and it would rip. This is the place I got mine from and it's just like the original.... http://ifscoind.com/productDetail.asp_Q_catID_E_128_A_subCatID_E_735_A_productID_E_15400
I'm using a 3m spray adhesive to glue it down and stapling all the edges. I started with the side pieces to get the hang of putting it on and it's working good !
I'll have pictures tomorrow..
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Burl wood was pretty thick plastic stuff with a paper backing that peeled off with sticky surface.
Didn't stick to resin coated seat bases well, so used staples.
After some uses I noted that seat bottoms were wearing away of burl wood .. So covered edges with duct tape.
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Wow ! Looks nice ! Did you have the seats redone or is that original? Looks like you laid your carpet in all one piece? Any problems doing that ? Mine was originally done in 2 pieces with a seam in the middle with a plastic H piece joining them...
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I just got cheap indoor/outdoor carpet from Home Depot. It was long and wide enough to do in one piece. The seats cover most of the floor to hold it down, so I used carpet tape to stick it down around certain spots. Worked well and is easy to replace when carpet wears out or gets burn, stains, etc.
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Yes.. seats were redone ..
First three pictures are what the 1976 CV16 seats should look like.
Would have cost to much to have quilted pattern done and also very very hard to line everything up.
Next picture is seats that came with boat when I got it .. cheap none marine vinyl.
It was hard to get patterns off them, and made thing hard for my Buddy to copy.
He had to make quite a few adjustment.
Pleats on three of the seat bottoms line up perfect with seat backs .. Last seat was way off .. drove him nuts .. LOL
Side padding was easy .. I did them myself, he made transom curtain though ..
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Nice and neat ! Do you hydraulic steering??
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Yes .. Baystar ..
That is why I asked you about steering, with my motor lifted there was no way a steering cable would work without cutting holes in splash well. It about double the price of NFB .. but worth every penny IMO.
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Hello ! I stared installing the carpet yesterday... I got the forward foot piece done and the 2 rear side pieces glued in . Now I need to trim the main floor carpet and glue that in . I do need to cut a hole for my steering rod that goes to the engine... I had a hole there but glassed it in to make a nice clean new one.
I like your black piece you have your cables going through. Keeps the water out too! Lol
Should have the carpet in next week then I finish the seat bottoms. I can’t wait to get her back in the water again!
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NICE !
Looks like original style carpet ..
The black grommet thing for where steering cable comes out of splash well, came on boat, but have seen them on all boat dealer parts catalogs and online marine shops.
When I did the side panels for splash well, I spent a good hour trimming and stapling carpet to panels .. Then found I did both on same side, so had to redo one .. LOL
I've seen cable routing like this on some boats with jack plates.
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Hi ! I looked for 2 years to find a carpet close to the original and I am very happy with this! About where your steering goes through, I did have to cut into the original hole and raise it . When I raised the transom, i glassed in the hole so I could cut a nice one where it needs to be.
The carpet is done ! Boy you can get a pretty good buzz on using that trim adhesive laying in the bottom smoothing it out ! Lol Seat bottoms are next !
Is the orange boat yours too? Ever think about clearing the upper part of the boat?
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Carpet looks GREAT !
Do you have a link to were you found it ?
No .. Orange CVX16 is some guy on FB.
When I got my CV it was pretty dull and faded, use 800 thru 3000 wet sanding, then "3M Finesse it 2" then wax.
Shine came back to almost original. The color and shine were very close to what was under bow light and windshield trim.
You could try some heavy compound / FI2 / wax and see if shine comes back.
What do you mean by clear ? Clear gel or some kind of plastic paint sealer ?
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After looking at picture of your deck, it looks very nice.
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Everything is looking great!
Where did you get the carpet? When I replaced my green carpet I had a heck of a time finding anything original and ended up getting some nice stuff from Home Depot but not 100% original.
Did you re paint/gel just the transom and blend it in or do the entire boat?
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Hello... I got the carpet from this https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F163322492515
It’s called Holly Leaf green .. I bought a 9x12 piece.
I only flaked the transom, splash well and blended the top rear side decks. The rest are just cleared. The problem I had with the rest was the tips of the original flake was coming threw . A had a few stress cracks in the white so I fixed them and painted the white then cleared everything.
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Looks great! How did you prep the rest of the boat for the re-clear?
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Clear gel ?
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Clear urethane . 4 coats. I sanded everything with 600 wet / dry paper then paint.
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If you can run water over your deck and it look good, you can sand and clear it... clear gelcoat is a mess and TONS of work after it on!
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Really looks great! Interesting array of other projects in the shop, boats, plane, Bridgeport.
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Lol. Thanks! The Skyhawks I’ve had for 30 years now. She’s my baby! Lol the little boat ,a friend and I built that last spring. 2 sheets of 1/4 plywood, a 2x4, and some 1x2s and 40 hrs! Took me a month after that to finish.
https://youtu.be/n9zjo1tEWO4
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That is awesome! I love that you put the Glastron swoosh on the side as well.
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When I was a kid, my dad bought me a 12’ Yellow Jacket with a Mark 25 Merc and these guys were running a round with these 14’ Glastron’s with 100 hp Mercs on them so when we painted the sides I had to have the marking on her ! I kind of built this for my grandson with my dad in mind...
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You got a "Pickle Rocket" and a "Red Rocket" … ;)
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Working on the seats today... almost got the port side done ...
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Forgot the picture last post...lol
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Pain in the butt to get to nuts that hold seats to deck !
Lookin' GOOD !
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Thanks! One thing I forgot was where the rear side panels bolt on.... mine just had a screw going into the very rear bottom of the rear seat bottom.... I removed that corner of the upholstery and installed a 1/4 20 blind/ t nut on the inside to bolt that piece to.
Those nuts you were talking about....you mean the upper ones?
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Yep !
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Here is what I did...I took a carriage bolt...welded it to a big washer, then epoxy day it and put a small screw so no chance of turning after everything was buttoned up...
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Just looking at your pictures again... I didn’t have any studs in the front where the controls go.....hmmmm.....🤷♂️
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The control board side is the worst to get to nuts. Guess I could have removed throttle control from board so there was more room to get to seat to deck nuts. The lower throttle board bolts look like they were installed from factory, mine is a 1976 so could have started doing it on later models.
I have a list of HIN & serial numbers ..Wonder if I could get yours .. No personal info is listed ..
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=5964.0
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Ok....now I know what you’re talking about with the nuts....right side rear...no problem....right side front... problem ... I have to re-remove my controls to get at it... I’m guessing the seat just fell off when I took it apart...lol
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The HIN is GCV02070M74F...... I bought it in august of ‘74. Got my seats in ! I’m going to build new rear side panels.... just don’t like the way they look.... I should have marked which one was which ... not a big deal to make.
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Thank you !
Built in Jan. for model year 1974.
The side pocket boards ?
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Yes...I thought I cover them on the correct side, but I see marks where the staples were..... I need a favor... if your bour is where you can get at it, could you measure your seat bottoms at the back and tell me how wide? Mine are 17 5/8..... I’m not sure if I have them on the wrong sides... the way I have mine it’s wide in the back and narrow in the front....dummy me didn’t mark them when I took them out. 🤬
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All four of mine are 17 x 20 .. give or take a bit.
I marked mine on the bottom when I installed the little wood block that hold them to bases, each side was a little different.
All measurements are here ..
CV Seats / Dash / Console ..
http://forum.cgoamn.com/index.php?topic=7005.0
Also ..
You can find the top metal trim piece for side pockets at your local home improvement store in the flooring / tile dept. It's tile transition trim.
Menards / Round Edge Tile Trim - Satin Nickel
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The actual burl wood seat bases Are yours 17 5/8 in the rear? .... wow .you made all new seats! Cool. They look good!
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Original (seat cushion bottoms) were just untreated or uncoated plywood.
They were rotted and cracking in the center.
All four bottom seat bases cushions are the same or are you referring to the bases that attach to floor ?
Measurements for floor to seat bases ..
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Cool . Thanks... they just didn’t seem to fit right on the floor.... buy I think I know what I did wrong....I need you to push up on the side before I bolt them on the top...that would bring in the inside bottom.
Thanks for checking for me .!
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OK .. Took me a bit to figure out what your talking about.
Right or left seat to floor base ..
When I replaced my carpet, I put screws for seat base to floor, in floor then with knife cut slits to get at screws.
That way I was able to use same holes and everything lined up.
I did mark the bases before removing them though.
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Seats are in ! Just got nervous,I guess...lol
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Hang it !
Pickles on the beach ..
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Cool pictures! I’m hoping to get up there for one of your events maybe next year. This summer we are taking the little red boat to Hessel, Mi for the wooden boat show, but next year we’ll try your event. It sounds like fun! Plus it would be cool to see all the different Glastrons. My dads last boat was a Glastron! It was the 26’ Adventurer cabin cruise with twin Ford V8’s. I’ll find a picture and post it.
I enjoyed your CV history too!
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http://www.classicglastron.com/62gl-inboards.JPG
This is a Glastron picture of my dads last boat . In fact this is what it looked like when he got it... after a few years he painted the brown, blue. He also added on to the hard top.
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That was a BIG boat back in 1962 !
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Finding one of those would be the ultimate score as far as we’re concerned
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I found a picture of my Glastron want to be..lol. This would have been 1966-67.....
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Forgot the picture...lol
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I seen a few of the late 50's cabin cruisers (Seaflite Seville cruiser) but have never seen a early to mid 60's I/O cruiser.
Might be listed as something other then Glastron .. or they totally rotted out and were scrapped.
Maybe only 4 or 5 Saberflite also ..
Cool Glastron swoosh Chris !
5 or 10 HP Merc ?
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Dads Adventurer was a straight inboard. That boat was built like a battle ship ! The hull was about 1 1/4” thick and she weighed 6-8 thousand lbs! Twin Fords pushed her about 25 mph.
On my boat , that was a Mark 25 Mercury... I think it was 20 hp... she’d run 32 mph.
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Finished my side boards.... polished the trim that goes on top. The filler piece that goes across the back I decided to use a piece of the carpet I had left over. I’m taking it to this guy to put a boarder around the edge to finish it off.... also glued a piece of vinyl to the back for support.
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Here’s a picture of my dads boat.
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WOW !
Would be cool to find your Dads boat .. Or any boat like that one to restore.
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I lost track of it....he sold it to a guy that was near where he kept it and the guy never did anything with it , then it got sold again and that’s where I lost track. I think it’s in Grand Haven , mi somewhere....
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Here’s another Glastron I had!
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It’s getting closer! After waiting a month for an aluminum plate to bend up for the transom, I got the engine attached to the boat now! All i need to do now is the steering and hydraulics and she’ be ready !
Here are some pix of how the engine hangs on the transom.
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Looks GREAT !
That's about where my motor sits.
Should handle pretty good !
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Sea trials today! Had it running a couple days ago and seemed to be good! I’m going to put her in the water this afternoon and go for it !
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Good luck, hope all goes well.
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Hope all go's well !
Years ago I tried one of Dave's two blade Hi Performance props, got within a MPH or two of the Laser II prop.
Believe it was the 22P from bottom chart.
Very smooth, low steering torque, no chine walk.
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I am restoring my CV16
Where did you get the Burlwood?
Also any ideas on carpet as I am unable to find the original "PLUM" or purple?
Jeff
jefft0854@gmail.com