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Title: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 02, 2020, 09:30:41 PM
Well… It’s in the garage so I guess that means the project has officially started

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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on March 03, 2020, 08:21:38 AM
Well… It’s in the garage so I guess that means the project has officially started

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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on March 03, 2020, 08:53:08 AM
Got a feeling this is going to be a interesting rebuild ..
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on March 03, 2020, 11:18:39 AM
Gotta start somewhere, strip it inside, then outside for grinding and tear out?
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 03, 2020, 12:04:08 PM
I will probably implement the dust collector bear.
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on March 03, 2020, 01:55:46 PM
You need to draw a face on the dust bear ..  :o :D ;)
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 03, 2020, 02:06:56 PM
Laurie did, and I’m sure she will post the picture of it


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on March 03, 2020, 09:52:44 PM
Seen it when you posted pics of the Bal harbor resto.  Hey, if it works.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 03, 2020, 09:56:28 PM
Monday
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Tuesday
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on March 03, 2020, 10:31:30 PM
Seats, side panel wood, vinyl for patterns & seat foam .. Nice !
Unless your not using the Back to back seats.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on March 04, 2020, 12:55:09 PM
You need to draw a face on the dust bear ..  :o :D ;)
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 04, 2020, 01:17:10 PM
Seats, side panel wood, vinyl for patterns & seat foam .. Nice !
Unless your not using the Back to back seats.
We are planning to use the original design on the interior. The fact that the boat was all intact is the main reason We drove all the way to South Dakota to get it when we already had one that was the same.


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 06, 2020, 08:17:28 PM
At least the cupholder works
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 06, 2020, 08:40:55 PM
This is where the motors gonna sit
I still need to find some MerCruiser motor mounts so I can dial in the motor mount locations.
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And I just found these on eBay, new old stock
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: ces308 on March 06, 2020, 09:30:38 PM
  You have a very ambitious project ahead of you , my friend! It will be worth it though when your done !
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 06, 2020, 09:39:39 PM
you speak the truth...



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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 10, 2020, 01:16:19 PM
MerCruiser 188 with the original logs is a tight fit, then with Glenwood Manifolds.
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The MerCruiser manual states a minimum of 13 inches from the waterline to the top of the riser, so will have to see what it looks like when I get my risers on Monday.


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 13, 2020, 08:08:43 AM
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The snails look like they are going to work very well, they fit under the original V-8 Engine cover, and the tops of them are about 15 inches above the waterline, plenty of clearance for manual steering although I’m not sure the power steering ram and valve would fit.
Glenwood manifolds and aluminum snails weigh 22 pounds each, The MerCruiser log manifolds with risers weighs 60 pounds each, for a net weight loss of 76 pounds.


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on March 13, 2020, 09:37:19 AM
Could you use external steering ram's ?
I've seen them on the Teleflex/Seastar web site. Guessing very expensive though.
Doug found a place that rebuild & sell hyd. steering systems.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 13, 2020, 03:50:01 PM
i have been looking at options, I think i could adapt the outboard cyl i have now to fit inside, or get the one made for a stern drive (one on ebay for a fair price). as far as the external go, looks like its mostly custom and for high power/speed use. i may fab something but i think it would be overkill for this application. the teleflex external are large displacement and require a vary large vol helm.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on March 14, 2020, 08:01:19 PM
Do you .. or will you have to split deck from hull to do transom ?
Asking for a friend ...
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 14, 2020, 08:03:46 PM
Not sure yet, it’s riveted and glassed all the way around.
It’s gonna be a PIA either way


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on March 14, 2020, 09:16:23 PM
OUCH !
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on March 21, 2020, 08:35:47 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on March 21, 2020, 09:09:24 PM
I wasn't smiling when I dug out my old foam ..
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 21, 2020, 09:32:56 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/74f638203fbd5cf19d9e8f90665a414c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/0d33ca4abb323d46a2b87fb40097c92b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/ffd3995ab1571734a18ac6ac7cbbc546.jpg)
Dust collector bear 3.0
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One foam box and part of the floor out


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on March 22, 2020, 01:07:56 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/74f638203fbd5cf19d9e8f90665a414c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/0d33ca4abb323d46a2b87fb40097c92b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200322/ffd3995ab1571734a18ac6ac7cbbc546.jpg)
Dust collector bear 3.0
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One foam box and part of the floor out


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I gotta draw another bear face!


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 22, 2020, 08:42:15 PM
Got all the structural demoed today
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Guess I won’t be able to use the old transom as a pattern.
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on March 23, 2020, 11:49:23 AM
Is this going to be an all composite build?
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: ces308 on March 26, 2020, 12:17:50 AM
You’re doing a great job! Before you know it, it will be done and you are going to say, that wasn’t so bad! Lol. I know....NOT! Lol stay the course!
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 28, 2020, 09:27:25 PM
Thanks...
I got about an hour of grinding in before the rain started
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And built the back half of the rotisserie
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 31, 2020, 09:42:33 PM
after several hours of grinding yesterday and today its mostly done, just half the transom mud plate to go.
speaking that, the motor mounts, stringer and the floor were set with that same super hard grey stuff :(
i got these carbide disks at harbor freight, they last almost 2 hours grinding on that grey stuff.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 31, 2020, 09:43:57 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Diamond Chad on April 01, 2020, 04:54:49 PM
Is that one of those rare Ogden City Brewing vacuum cleaner heads in the shot?
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on April 01, 2020, 05:00:24 PM
I'm still not certain what that grey stuff is, but I thought it was only present on the mid eighties boats.  Mine was cracked pretty bad so a little work with an air chisel got most of it.   I'll have to look for those grinding wheels my next trip to horror freight.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on April 01, 2020, 05:30:13 PM
When I did Kips boat the gray stuff on the transom. I used a rivet gun and chisel to remove. Worked real slick did not take much time to do. Plus it keep the dust down.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on April 01, 2020, 06:26:58 PM
Had the same stuff on my transom and splash well .. 1976 CV16
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on April 01, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
Is that one of those rare Ogden City Brewing vacuum cleaner heads in the shot?
Lol
It’s supposed to be an adapter so I can hook the smaller hose to the dust collector bear, but it doesn’t have quite enough suck, I think my T-shirt is too heavy.


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on April 01, 2020, 07:06:39 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200402/6fbac5d40c055c90026840b9928d71db.jpg)
I got the rest of the mud plate ground out, and almost half of the carpet glue, even when those carbide discs get dull they still cut through fiberglass like crazy. They also work really good on the carpet glue.


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: RedOctober89 on April 02, 2020, 02:30:43 PM
making great progress! I like your rotisserie bracket!
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on April 02, 2020, 02:48:44 PM
making great progress! I like your rotisserie bracket!
Yea that part was easy, the front one is gonna be a little more complex


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: V153 on April 02, 2020, 03:37:19 PM
Lookin good Joe!
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Tonka Jim on April 04, 2020, 07:21:56 PM
Looks great Joe, I wish I was there to help.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on April 11, 2020, 04:26:29 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on April 11, 2020, 04:30:31 PM
That's quite the setup ya got there !
If ya run out of stuff to grind .. I got some extra ..
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on April 11, 2020, 09:11:46 PM
Gonna borrow it to go grocery shopping ;-p
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on April 11, 2020, 09:40:36 PM
LOL .. and it wouldn't even look funny !
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on April 12, 2020, 11:19:02 AM
Astronaut in training? Extra from the movie Outbreak?   Serious quality PPE protection, wish I had the respirator for spray work.     
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on April 16, 2020, 06:58:03 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200416/894c3e5900cad122c9fd3785d5dbfca9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200416/50ef4edcaa56774baf14e75f185fd45d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200416/a3226ae0580299a6a7012493652ce851.jpg)
New exhaust tips showed up today


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on April 16, 2020, 07:46:58 PM
Hover conversion
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on April 16, 2020, 08:57:49 PM
Rotisserie works great
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Jason on April 16, 2020, 09:03:00 PM
Thats cool!
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on April 16, 2020, 09:26:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0EvUP_1PWY&feature=share


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on April 16, 2020, 09:30:04 PM
I will add that there was no rehearsal


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on April 17, 2020, 09:36:26 AM
That makes it easy !
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on April 26, 2020, 08:08:09 PM
Been kind of slacking lately...
But I did get a cradle built last week.
And I got the transom cut out tonight, that composite sure is easy to work with.
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: awc105 on April 28, 2020, 10:11:48 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on May 16, 2020, 03:53:53 PM
Motor mounts and stringer cut
I guess I’m gonna have to head over to express composites and get some resin
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on May 16, 2020, 04:48:15 PM
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Christmas tree


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on May 18, 2020, 07:41:17 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on May 19, 2020, 09:31:29 PM
Also got the motor mounts built
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As you can see since yesterday the tables have gotten filled up, getting ready to go camping on the river weather is going to be awesome tomorrow


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on May 23, 2020, 06:44:40 PM
I got the motor mounts and transom cleaned up last night
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And glued the transom in this afternoon
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on June 02, 2020, 08:47:55 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200603/76a53ad7e20b2f0ce333851f5ae50b04.jpg)
Motor mounts went in last week.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200603/fe14e459e1b038c0f1ce43bc25e5fd61.jpg)
Finished tabbing them in and the bulkhead tonight


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on December 31, 2020, 08:39:18 PM
Well the CV 16 has been sitting in the garage with junk piled on it since the beginning of June I guess.
Made some space in the garage
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decided I should flip it over and check to see if it has the infamous strake cracks.
Both sides have fractures in the gelcoat, I assume it must go all the way through or at least the layup must be week there.
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A close-up of the starboard side it’s the worst of the two
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210101/c79c456ff880d695e515c1019f43f0a1.jpg)
Going to pick up at 8 foot straight edge tomorrow so I can get an idea of what I need to do to get the hook out, then will flip it over and start grinding again


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on December 31, 2020, 10:07:32 PM
WOW !
Though it was only the outboard versions with the problem ..
OH NO !
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: still_fishin on January 01, 2021, 08:52:13 PM
I chased cracks like that on our 23. I stopped chasing them when I got to the last layer of glass.....I needed something to use as a base. 

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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: 75starflight on January 02, 2021, 09:20:05 PM
Must be a common Glastron problem from the 70s boats.
My V179 and the CVZ-18 both show racks along the strakes. If I replace the stringers in the V179 this spring I am going to add some reinforcement layers inside the hull.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 02, 2021, 09:47:29 PM
Hook is not too bad, 1/16 in most places cept outer stb strake is 0.2
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Stringer and fillers between motor mounts and middle strake are bedded in
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 03, 2021, 07:27:54 PM
Stringer tabbed in
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210104/f85143fdbe9422c515e8b9ba11428200.jpg)
Floor marked and cut
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Spacers added to raise floor and stringer height adjusted
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The material I have for the floor is only 7/16 and I wanted it flush with the top of the strake cutout.
Also figured dimensions for composite fillers for the top strake (I don’t want that crease in the floor
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on January 03, 2021, 08:29:47 PM
Looking good Joe keep up the good work.

Will the floor go in this week?
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: dorelse on January 04, 2021, 09:47:35 AM
Nice job!
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 05, 2021, 09:24:24 AM
in an effort to locate placement of extra martial under the floor to accommodate screwing the seat bases in i have discovered this CV16 appears to have less space that the GT150 had :(
 
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on January 05, 2021, 09:49:58 AM
That monster V8 has to occupy space somewhere right?  Maybe consider just one set of seats, the rest storage?  I like the look of the back-to-back seats, and yours look to be in great shape.  Maybe jump seats alongside the engine cover as second set?   IDK, tough call.
Title: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 05, 2021, 10:03:10 AM
Our current thought is to make the seats a little smaller, similar to the size of the ones in the GT150.
I think moving away from the back to back seats it came with would be The wrong Way to go.

The SS has jump seats but the V8 don’t have enough space so it has steps.


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on January 05, 2021, 10:50:40 AM
Make them Benny and Willy jump seats?  Look like steps to us?  Deck carpet, and storage underneath?  Maybe make the B2B seats into a jump seat rear facing?  With your talent I'm certain it will be a neat solution.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 05, 2021, 02:10:08 PM
Only the CV19SS had jump seats .. guessing that's what you meant by "SS" ..
The engine cover and stern on the V8 are different then the CV16SS,  but never noted how different ..
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 05, 2021, 02:13:51 PM
Guess ya could do CVX seats .. and change back to CV style seats if wanted or needed ..
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 05, 2021, 02:21:52 PM
Some CV16 outboards came with GT160 seats.
Gives you an idea of what room you would gain and look of two buckets.
Title: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 05, 2021, 02:50:19 PM
I did mean CV 16 SS...
But I guess I was wrong about that I thought I remembered Jason‘s boat having jump seats in it. I obviously have a bona fide case of CRS.


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 08, 2021, 08:46:33 PM
Floor is in and outer strakes are filled
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This is the under side of the floor showing extra material for screwing down seats and engine cover
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 11, 2021, 11:04:28 PM
Tabbed in
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Filled with foam
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And covered with CSM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 12, 2021, 07:37:34 AM
I got inspired this morning and slapped some gel coat on the floor
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mechanick on January 12, 2021, 05:47:41 PM
Nice job!  Not to get too far out ahead but have you determined whether the current flake gelcoat is “recoverable” or do you need to re-do?  If re-do, will you go w flake?   
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 12, 2021, 10:17:37 PM
Needs to be redone
Will be flake in gel coat
This is the flake
i have 5 lbs of this https://www.facebook.com/VintageSledPaint/photos/863306713687667
It’s Custom Wild Berry, mix of .015 and .025


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on January 13, 2021, 04:14:49 PM
That should look great!  Surprised you're not sick of sanding by now.
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Post by: thedeuceman on January 13, 2021, 04:15:41 PM
That should look great!  Surprised you're not sick of sanding by now.
Oh I will be


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on January 15, 2021, 11:36:51 AM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 16, 2021, 11:23:56 AM
Not by much, but the 351 does fit
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on January 16, 2021, 01:17:33 PM
I see a big problem, distributor is on the wrong side of the engine!  You're right, that is tight.   Is power steering possible or external?
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 16, 2021, 01:28:35 PM
Will engine cover fit ?
There are pictures of Chris's CV16V8 with SBC motor, and cover just seems to be lifted up a little.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 16, 2021, 05:55:50 PM
I see a big problem, distributor is on the wrong side of the engine!  You're right, that is tight.   Is power steering possible or external?
Ha!
I just brought an old style transom assembly with power steering home from the farm it won’t work the way it’s set up because the right bank is set to the back so the starboard side riser only has about 2 inches of clearance off the transom


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 16, 2021, 05:57:06 PM
Will engine cover fit ?
There are pictures of Chris's CV16V8 with SBC motor, and cover just seems to be lifted up a little.
Engine cover will need to be made approximately 3 inches taller, and widened out a little bit in the front to accommodate the manifolds


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 16, 2021, 07:36:41 PM
Stock CV16V8 and Chris's Cv16V8 SBC engine cover
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on January 16, 2021, 08:59:12 PM
Would converting to center rise help in both exhaust routing and power steering/transom plate issues?
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 16, 2021, 09:24:51 PM
CV16V8 Merc 888
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 16, 2021, 09:30:47 PM
CV16V8
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: still_fishin on January 16, 2021, 10:15:28 PM
Will the stainless exhaust I sent up with Shawn give you a bit more free space?

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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 17, 2021, 12:14:40 AM
Would converting to center rise help in both exhaust routing and power steering/transom plate issues?
Yes, but I’m not willing to pay the price, tough to find used


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 17, 2021, 12:17:18 AM
Will the stainless exhaust I sent up with Shawn give you a bit more free space?

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The risers are too tall so I would need to rework them as well as the flanges.


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Title: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 17, 2021, 07:35:41 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210118/830f99a33c8fe658c483204ffa08faf5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210118/8508a5caadc7b8604701caf21d6b33c3.jpg)
Volvo hole filled in, spaceer to bring transom to 2 1/4” installed


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Title: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 21, 2021, 07:09:10 AM
Sea star cylinder and linkage clear the risers so that’s good. There will be no power steering with this exhaust system.
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And mocked up the required exhaust elbows to connect risers to tips
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I will admit it’s an awful lot of work to cut 77 pounds out of the boat, might’ve been just easier to use the cast iron manifolds and lose that much weight


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on January 21, 2021, 11:57:10 AM
Might need to cut back on the beer and start grazing on greens.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on January 21, 2021, 01:51:21 PM
Wet joint snails maybe machine and turn at the wet joint?  Or maybe weld up a stainless snail to fit better?  Silly idea, but could you swap them and put the snails forward?  I suppose no power steering is worth a try, find the happy spot with the trim tab.  Worse case go external on the drive, but which is more cost effective, different exhaust or external power steering.   You're making great progress, I kinda like the cardboard exhaust mock ups, I generally just cut and tack tubing, then remove for final welding.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 21, 2021, 02:06:52 PM
I have considered all of those options, but none of them really seem that they would work out very well.
I don’t have the tubing yet but really needed to know that I was going to be able to make something work.
As far as the steering goes the sea star is effectively no feedback


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 24, 2021, 10:34:53 PM
Well now the boat is hanging upside down. I was able to demo the support for the dash and the Gunwhales, and I got the composite material glued in today. I was also able to reattach the pieces I cut off on the side of the engine compartment to make it wider to accommodate the 351.
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I also bought some stainless steel bilge vents and got them cut in as well
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 25, 2021, 07:32:56 AM
For reference
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 25, 2021, 02:01:31 PM
NICE !
With all the cut outs in dash for steering helm and gauges, dash is weak and flexible on mine.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 25, 2021, 02:29:26 PM
NICE !
With all the cut outs in dash for steering helm and gauges, dash is weak and flexible on mine.
Yeah ours was actually broken.
I am considering backing it up with a piece of aluminum


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 26, 2021, 09:02:05 PM
I got a little creative with the back boxes for the bilge vents
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“Jump step” supports glassed in
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All these details...


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 26, 2021, 11:14:05 PM
Got inspired and glassed them in, and  flanges to attach sides of engine compartment
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And I can’t believe I’ve gone this long without one of these
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 30, 2021, 11:02:13 AM
Look ma...
No logs
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on January 30, 2021, 11:50:01 AM
What is your plan to reinforce the bow?
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 30, 2021, 11:53:12 AM
3/4” plascore
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on January 30, 2021, 12:52:21 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Hyperacme on January 30, 2021, 02:55:29 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on January 30, 2021, 03:05:40 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on January 30, 2021, 05:39:39 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on January 30, 2021, 05:46:26 PM
Front half is in
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Bedded in with 1 layer of csm
And 1 layer 2mm coremat



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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on February 01, 2021, 08:33:26 AM
Core is in
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on February 10, 2021, 08:37:24 AM
Made some minor progress, marked up a possible 30 gallon fuel tank I would have to custom make it from aluminum.
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Somewhat concerned about the weight, the 17 gallon Moeller plastic replacement would weigh 110 pounds full, The custom-made aluminum tank would weigh 220 to 230 pounds depending on if I use .100 or .125 material.
And a sad day in the middle of the project, I need the garage to work on cars
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on February 26, 2021, 08:17:35 AM
after several vehicle repairs, and waiting out the sub zero weather we are back at it. making minor progress cleaning up various details.
filled outer corners of transom with airjay6011 (Ceramic Pourable Compound), i had 1 gal and their was still about an inch of space so i finished it with foam.
installed panels for gunwale storage (1/2" plascore)
remeasured and found a moeller 25gal tank that fits similar to the orig, the filler needs to be moved to starboard side (near where the horn was mounted) the only thing i'm changing is a custom PU tube that is more to the rear canter of the tank.
cu the holes for the through hull ex so i can get final measurements before i start cutting metal for the custom elbows required.
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on February 26, 2021, 08:21:54 AM
Some pix
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Tank and shelf
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on February 28, 2021, 03:59:23 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Mrs.TheDeuceMan on February 28, 2021, 07:24:17 PM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 01, 2021, 05:56:12 AM
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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: 75starflight on March 02, 2021, 03:41:39 PM
Won't your through hull exhaust be below the water line even while on plane with as low as they are?
Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: thedeuceman on March 02, 2021, 03:53:12 PM
Possibly, but that’s about as high as I can get them with the current set up I have, Center rise aluminum manifolds are almost impossible to find for a Ford. OMC center rise manifolds are pretty common but the risers are really tall.
And I think that 77 pounds is worth saving.


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Title: Re: CV16 V8 restoration
Post by: Plugcheck on March 02, 2021, 05:45:58 PM
C'mon Brandon, the exhaust ports are super low so he can drive it home if the prop comes off  solely by the exhaust! Ha!