Author Topic: New Glastron Cave, in need of help (Read 36862 times)

75starflight · « **Reply #40 on:** September 20, 2013, 01:33:59 PM »

Quote from: kert0307 on September 20, 2013, 11:20:15 AM

For right now, my hobby business website, phone, ect is all with free Google services. You can tell it's not a high dollar set up, but it works for what I need. Also it's nice to have the Google Voice phone number because it lets me keep my private numbers off business cards, but I still get notified on my cell phone when I get calls.

Here's my website https://sites.google.com/site/accurateproductstargets/home

Kert, I see on your site you are going to be in Hasting, NE on the 5 and 6 of october. I live about an hour from hastings. what does your show schedule look like?

Hotwired · « **Reply #41 on:** October 08, 2013, 11:24:29 PM »

Ross, have you had any more luck with this? I have been a structures designer for 25 years. There are many options for foundations for you. I would think a caison/drilled footing would be best if you want to eliminate the slab for now. You would drill about a 24" round hole about 4 feet deep and fill it with concrete and a steel cage. Anchor bolts can be replaced with expansion (redhead) type anchors making column/frame setting more simple and eliminating alignment issues. Anchor design would have to be determined for both anchor bolts or expansion anchors.

Unloading the truck? Rent a backhoe. There should be more than sufficient reach to both unload and erect the columns/frames.

I just built a same size pole building for a client. Roof panels are likely around 22' - 23' long. We used a wooden rig attached in the bucket of a tractor to lift the sheets of metal to the roof. They are not heavy but they are very awkward! flimsy till they are laid in place.

I sent you an email also.

Rosscoe · « **Reply #42 on:** October 09, 2013, 06:23:27 PM »

Quote from: WetRaider on September 19, 2013, 11:26:44 PM

Ross - the website stuff isn't as difficult as you'd think.
I have used GoDaddy for years. Right now I have their ultimate hosting ... $7.50/month - unlimited bandwidth, unlimited websites.
You can get a simple website builder for an extra $1.00 per month, upgrade that to $4.50 for additional themes, etc.
Keep in mind, though, you pay by the year - so you'll pay $12 x 12 = $144 to have 12 months hosting and the website builder.
I typically order my stuff through them 3-5 years at time.

my personal site is not fancy ... www.architectureindoors.com ... and I have purchased some iweb themes to create these on my mac and upload through an FTP server. One thing about GoDaddy is that their customer service is excellent. They can walk you through things step-by-step if you need the help & most information is available online. I can typically answer my own question after searching the GoDaddy help section.

Thanks for the info Dan and Kert. I am just starting to get to that point. I may have some questions for you since you seem pretty knowledgeable in this area.

Chris I had no idea what you did for a living. I sent you the plans as requested in your email. Things are falling in place somewhat. Looks like we'll be unloading my building at the Sculpture Park near me and use their monster fork lift. Then putting it on a car hauler trailer and bringing it to my place. Then using the fork lift for setting it up, I think. John, the CEO at the Park will rent me the fork for 60/hr.

CVZ18Fan · « **Reply #43 on:** October 09, 2013, 07:17:39 PM »

Ross, nice work. I wish you luck in your new venture. If you are looking for some stuff that makes some good money, here are some that I have been successful with over the years. I used to own a remodeling company and also built custom furniture.

You mentioned animal stuff. Here is a dog crate I made for one of my high end customers. They used it for one of their show dogs. It has hidden casters under the bottom to roll it around on the floor. As you can see, it is lined with lexan in the event of an accident, easy cleanup. This was a one off item, pretty sure the bill on this was over $1200

I made various shadow box themed coffee tables. This one had all the guys prior Harley's on display. That logo is raised up and was hand painted.

Military display boxes were always an easy sell. If you have any military friends or family, promote your product and they will keep you busy.

Challenge Coin Displays, easy to make in batches, nice profit.

Every woman in the world wants these in their kitchen. Make jigs for them and they are repeatable very easily.

And some bigger pieces. Lots of work though. That entertainment center took me 3 weeks to make and was very expensive!

Just thought I would share some ideas. There is money to made in wood working with the right items. Make things that are easy to make in batches. Good Luck! If I can be of any assistance, let me know.

Rich

Rosscoe · « **Reply #44 on:** October 10, 2013, 09:23:17 AM »

Nice work Rich.
Better then what I can do or have the patience for.
I will need some higher dollar pieces for sure. I like the dog crate. I'd be interested in seeing how that is put together.

CVZ18Fan · « **Reply #45 on:** October 10, 2013, 09:32:20 AM »

PM me your contact info and I will explain how that went together.

Rich

Rosscoe · « **Reply #46 on:** November 04, 2013, 07:19:30 PM »

After set backs due to illness and the weather, we finally made some progress today. Got all 14 footings bored while it drizzled, then poured on us. The people that were supposed to deliver the concrete and tubes didn't show up, so we had to stop. They said they didn't want the tubes to get wet! Thanks for letting us know. I took a couple of pics but I don't think my phone liked the rain.
Inspection scheduled for tomorrow as well as concrete delivery again and we'll be pouring. Hope we get them all done before it snows!. Had trouble finding the big arse anchor bolts we required but they were found at 7 Corners Hardware so I picked those up late this afternoon. Special order everywhere else.
$155.00 worth of anchor bolts!

Building is scheduled to be delivered at a near by location (for unloading) during the week of Nov 20. I tried to move it up but I am glad now, it didn't happen.

David CVX-16 · « **Reply #47 on:** November 04, 2013, 08:08:04 PM »

Ross, we have anchor bolts like crazy at work if you need any, plus other fasteners for iron to concrete, hydraulic cement, etc. At 35 W and Lake Drive in Lino Lakes.

http://www.boeironinc.com/

Rosscoe · « **Reply #48 on:** November 08, 2013, 06:49:37 PM »

Pouring was a lot of work doing it by hand and with a mixer but we got it done after dark and in the snow. I am not all that happy with the work of "pros" and how the footings laid out in relation to the anchor bolts. Being I hired someone, I really didn't want to be involved at the level I have been but its good I was. I helped them avoid some mis-readings on the prints. Too busy to take many pics.
We ran short on concrete since we drilled all the footings at 16" instead of some at 12" and some at 16". I volunteered to run to Menards to get another 60 bags and without thinking much about the weight, tried to put 60-60 pound bags on my snowmobile trailer. Well, that didn't work. At least it broke before I got on the road or that would have really sucked, being on the side of the road and having to unload it all by hand. My contractor came with his truck and took 30 bags and I left my trailer in Menards yard until today. I ended up coming back again Tuesday night or another 8 bags. I'll be glad when this is done. I had to have a flat bed pick it up and bring it home. Now I have another thing to fix. Think I'll try to flip it over somehow and work on it that way. Hope I can get another axel without it having to be "special"
Fiasco!

CVX Fever · « **Reply #49 on:** November 08, 2013, 10:27:06 PM »

Holy crap Ross that's a lot of weight, no wonder the axle on that poor snowmobile trailer let go.

Jason · « **Reply #50 on:** November 08, 2013, 11:54:30 PM »

3600lbs! I guess when you are in the middle of things it could be easy to overlook.

Glad you are making progress though!

Rosscoe · « **Reply #51 on:** November 09, 2013, 08:50:28 AM »

Quote from: 74GlasCarlSS on November 08, 2013, 11:54:30 PM

3600lbs! I guess when you are in the middle of things it could be easy to overlook.

Glad you are making progress though!

Yeah, hurry hurry hurry. Guys are mixing and pouring while I ran. Never thought about the total weight. It might have been ok if the bags and weight were dispersed across the entire trailer but that would have sucked to load and unload.

Rosscoe · « **Reply #52 on:** November 09, 2013, 08:56:44 AM »

Quote from: CVX Fever on November 08, 2013, 10:27:06 PM

Holy crap Ross that's a lot of weight, no wonder the axle on that poor snowmobile trailer let go.

Not to mention it was very rusty. I have seen chunks flaking off for some time. I thought about having it sandblasted at some point but I think it would have disintegrated.
These things get used in the winter and never or rarely washed. At least mine hasn't. Salt sits on there forever eating away.
The closest replacement I have found, without taking any measurements say they are rated for 2200 pounds and that's on a good day.

Rosscoe · « **Reply #53 on:** November 16, 2013, 10:29:09 AM »

The building was scheduled tentatively, to be delivered on Nov 21st and has now been moved to the 27th, the day before Thanksgiving. Unfortunately it sounds like this date may not work at the Sculpture park due to the fork operator not being available. Sounds like the 27th would be better for the park but my contractor is going hunting for the entire week after Thanksgiving! Too many variables and they are starting to unravel.
During my "down time" between working on my website and other business related BS, I tore into the trailer and got the axle off but am having trouble finding a direct replacement. For one thing, the trailer is a 1992 and it seems they are all 5 lug hubs now and mine is 4 so I would have to buy all new rims and tires too. Also the width of the newer ones are a little narrower but I think that would be fine. Being that my unemployment ran out last week, its looking like this may have to wait. I think I'll start looking for a part time job. Joni will be switching to 2nd shift with her new employer, to get more hours. This will screw up some boating outings next summer unless a full time 1st shift opens up for her.
Over the last couple of weeks I did get a small office built into my shop and continue to gather stuff that will be moved to the new cave for storage. I still have lawnmowers to winterize as well as the V175. Drained the hot tub yesterday to save on electricity. Besides we usually don't use it in the winter.
Not much boat related here (I did mention the 175) but feel like I've got a lot of plates spinning in the air right now and just needed to air out my frustrations. Sorry

Jason · « **Reply #54 on:** November 16, 2013, 03:47:33 PM »

Is it totally out of the question to straighten the axle and reinforce it with some plating? Or have a new tube welded between the spindles? I am not real familiar with snowmobile trailer axles.

fireman24mn · « **Reply #55 on:** November 16, 2013, 07:16:28 PM »

Wouldn't this work. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_32041_32041

All you need is the axle and reuse your hubs, rims, tires.

Otherwise there is this as well http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200365156_200365156

I just rebuilt my snowmobile trailer this weekend

Rosscoe · « **Reply #56 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:00:02 AM »

Quote from: 74GlasCarlSS on November 16, 2013, 03:47:33 PM

Is it totally out of the question to straighten the axle and reinforce it with some plating? Or have a new tube welded between the spindles? I am not real familiar with snowmobile trailer axles.

Yeah, its too rusty and the mounting brackets are smashed. Believe me I have thought about trying to reuse it.
That last picture of it laying on the ground is after we stood on it and straightened it. There just really isnt any metal there. All flaking away and you have to avoid welding on these Torsion type axles because there are rubber cords running through at least part of it. That makes up the suspension.
There are a lot of things I COULD do....modify brackets, redrill the frame etc to get something to work but I wanted a drop in so I am not screwing around with it for days/weeks.

Rosscoe · « **Reply #57 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:05:02 AM »

Quote from: fireman24mn on November 16, 2013, 07:16:28 PM

Wouldn't this work. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_32041_32041

All you need is the axle and reuse your hubs, rims, tires.

Otherwise there is this as well http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200365156_200365156

I just rebuild my snowmobile trailer this weekend

That's what I'd like to do...reuse the hubs etc but can not find an axle with the correct dimensions. I saw those at Northern and the frame width is incorrect.
I did find one at a Trailer dealer in Forest Lake but it was 350.00, 1 inch too narrow which would be ok but it wasnt offered without the hubs. Came with 5 lug hubs so....I'll keep looking. I've kinda moved it to the back burner now. Need to generate some income.

Hotwired · « **Reply #58 on:** November 18, 2013, 10:11:59 PM »

Can you tell how thick the original axle pipe was? I would think it was about 1/4" which would be standard pipe. If heavier it would be X-strong pipe which is a standard grade structural pipe. It looks to be about 3" pipe. You should be able to get a length of pipe from a steel suppler and have the axle tube replaced or get a like sized channel and weld a piece to either side of the axle sandwiching the original between the new channels.

Jerry · « **Reply #59 on:** November 19, 2013, 01:06:36 AM »

I think it's a torque tube axle. there's probably an anchor in the middle. Spend the $219 and be done with it.