Author Topic: You can call me skegless  (Read 26658 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline still_fishin

  • Donate members
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 757
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2015, 07:20:36 PM »
No, I didn't sell it.  The Intimidator has a nose cone.  The 18 does not.
'80 Intimidator
'85 CV23

Offline CVX Fever

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2002
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2015, 08:23:28 PM »
Quote
I don't think I'm going to have time this year but early next year I will take the drive off my CVX18 and do a full speed run with both drives so we can put this to rest.  I'll just change the drives in the parking lot.

Cool idea Tim! My money is on the stock drive as being the fastest. Here's a guy that stuck a nose cone his alpha drive and lost 5 MPH.

http://checkmate-boats.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-9526.html
1979 CVX18 "Back in Black"....someday!
1985 CVX18 " Only thing better than 2 CVX18's is 2 girlfriends!

Offline V153

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4970
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2015, 09:08:13 PM »
Less'n yer gonna raise the X dimension. All you're doing with a nose cone is increasing the size/overall displacement of the gearcase.
'81 C500_given away, bought back_75.1 mph
'81 Baja 15SS_140 Frankenrude_66.7 mph
'70 something SpeedCraft_(Allison 16R Clone)_69.0 mph
'79 CVZ19_given away
'71 V153_54.8 mph_wrecked


WALK TALL AND CARRY A BIG BILGE PUMP

Offline Plugcheck

  • Donate members
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3269
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2015, 08:05:44 AM »
No nose cone, from I have learned the timi may benefit due to the higher x dim and v hull, but not the Cvx hull.  Got the drive back on, and set tonight's score on the propshaft.  It's a merc trophy in 25p.  Smaller diameter, but I have Thru hull exhaust so ventilation should not be an issue.   You may notice the trim tab will need some clearancing.  Hope to try it out this Sunday.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline Plugcheck

  • Donate members
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3269
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2015, 08:11:07 AM »
Here is the photo of the completed skeg/prop repairs.  Could not post with previous posting, it just would not go through.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline Hyperacme

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13332
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2015, 08:14:01 AM »
Do you need that tab if you have power steering ?

Offline Plugcheck

  • Donate members
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3269
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2015, 08:27:31 AM »
     Well, that is a very good question.  Before I had nothing but a big open hole where a trim tab or coverplate used to be.   Even with power steering, I found that at WOT the steering wheel pulled hard to the left.   I later found an issue with the PS reservoir being near empty, but also added a trim tab at the same time.  Not certain which was more instrumental in the actual corrective action, but at WOT the steering is neutral, in fact fairly neutral through all the rpm range.   I did notice a bit less ventilation/cavitation when the trim tab is in place, so it remains for now.  I will probably take an old one to modify as the current tab is new.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline Hyperacme

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13332
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2015, 08:50:05 AM »
I know for outboard they make a "Set back" tab.
Maybe one style/size of tab fits both I/O's and outboards ?
« Last Edit: August 26, 2015, 08:55:26 AM by Hyperacme »

Offline dorelse

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5988
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2015, 09:09:42 AM »
You definitely don't need the tab with power steering...I ground my completely flat to fill the void.  I would track straight as an arrow if you let go of the steering wheel a WOT...no pull either direction.
1990 Sierra 1700

Offline Diamond Chad

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 524
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2015, 10:09:49 AM »
Mine was removed on the 18 when I got it.  No steering issues at speed.  I found a blank filler plate in stock at West Marine.  Guess the metal serves as an anode and will sacrifice its metal to electrolysis before the drive housing.   Probably just a salt water concern anyhow, but it makes for a nice finished look.

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/mercury-marine--mercury-mercruiser-76214q5-new-style-flat-trim-tab-zinc-anode--4531372

2012 GTR 160 Collectors Edition
87 CVX-18 5.7 (Sold)
88 CVX-16 115 Merc  (Sold)
57 Dunphy Imperial Musky - 57 Golden Javelin
01 Malibu Sunsetter 21 LSV 340 EFI

Offline Plugcheck

  • Donate members
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3269
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2015, 01:30:32 PM »
I found one in my collection of parts that is rather pitted, I think with some machining it could plug the hole and offer some cathodic protection.  Also saves my new tab for the future.  I may smooth it off and hope for the best steering wise.  Thanks for the advice.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline MarkS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1062
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2015, 02:44:59 PM »
I would think the open hole (when running without it) would cause some turbulence in the prop area?
Mark
1978 SSV-176

Offline Plugcheck

  • Donate members
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3269
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2015, 11:52:53 PM »
Instead of cutting the new tab, or doing the same with the old tab, I thought I would give the flat disk a try.  Stole it(OK borrowed sounds better) from the timi, a quick clean up, and install.  Put the new prop on, looking forward to see how it performs.  Excited to feel how this prop has greater stern lift than a three blade.  Might even have to lake test Saturday before river run.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline Plugcheck

  • Donate members
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3269
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2015, 11:59:02 PM »
Whoops, sorry a pic would help.
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline Jason

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5564
  • 1974 CV16SS, 1986 CV23
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #74 on: August 27, 2015, 06:14:34 AM »
That's my set up too. Rev 4 prop and flat tab. No issues.
Jason S.
1974 Glastron Carlson CV16SS 140 I/O
1986 Glastron Carlson CV23 260 I/O

Offline Plugcheck

  • Donate members
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3269
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #75 on: August 27, 2015, 07:52:26 AM »
It's a Mercury trophy, was on a 200hp OB Ranger bass boat.  According to owner did 74mph.  Smaller than the drive case on mine, but since I have no exhaust thru it, it should be OK.  We shall know soon enough.  BTW Jason, is your Rev 4 on your 23 I assume?  Curious to know what pitch you running.  My new one is 25p, same as the 3 blade, and I have found info that states I should go down 1 or 2 in pitch when going to four blade. 
Michael
1979 CVZ-18 388 CI Vortec Mouse
1980 CVX-16SS 140 Mercruiser
1979 CVX-16 Johnson 175
2002 Bennington 2275CC 90 Mercury
1985 Intimidator project
1989 Lowe 200 Redneck fishin Toon
2001 Godfrey Sweetwater pontoon 115 Rude

Offline kert0307

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 386
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #76 on: August 27, 2015, 08:34:56 AM »
I run a 4 bladed 22p Stiletto on my cvx16 with the v8. I also have a 3 bladed 23 as well (mercury vengence, similar to laser2). I have a 3 bladed 25p, but it makes the boat pretty doggy off the line and even though I've gotten the best speed out of it, my rpms aren't where I would like.

I'm interested to hear if your boat is still a wheelie machine now.

Offline Jason

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5564
  • 1974 CV16SS, 1986 CV23
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #77 on: August 27, 2015, 11:42:48 AM »
Yep. On the 23. It's a 21p and took a year to find at an affordable price. Pretty happy with it so far.
Jason S.
1974 Glastron Carlson CV16SS 140 I/O
1986 Glastron Carlson CV23 260 I/O

Offline MarkS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1062
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #78 on: August 28, 2015, 09:29:57 AM »
............ and I have found info that states I should go down 1 or 2 in pitch when going to four blade.
I have read that too, but later found out that many of the four blade props were 1/2" smaller diameter than the three bladed versions so that you didn't have to drop down a size in pitch?
Mark
1978 SSV-176

Offline Easthaven

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 74
Re: You can call me skegless
« Reply #79 on: August 30, 2015, 06:21:11 PM »
Guys! That looks nasty! I'm afraid to ride out in that stuff now! Anybody got fish/depth finders in their boats? Would that help much doing 20-30mph? Yikes! Sorry guys!
Adam Stevenson
1979 cvx18
1956 v156
1965 16' fibercraft
If you like something, get 2 of it!