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Title: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: Mootspoints on August 27, 2023, 08:33:12 AM
I have a ?79 CVZ-18 - originally a Mercruiser 228 boat, now has a 350 4bbl.  Just swapped out the ignition and it runs and rides incredible.

It?s descent, but needs a resto.  Planning to undertake that this winter.  Question:

The boat has a pre-alpha outdrive.  TR or TRS, not sure.  The problem is the steering is loose as hell.  The pinion think that?s what it?s called - the part that goes into the gimble) is moving, and the steering cylinder holes are oblong.  I?ve read these are known issues.  It looks like parts are discontinued.

So, is it possible to swap in a newer outdrive without having to rebuild the transom?  Do any share the same hole pattern through the hull?  Is this possible?
Title: Re: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: Hyperacme on August 27, 2023, 11:21:37 AM
I don't know an alpha from a bravo .. but someone will respond ..
This should help with which drive you have now ..
Title: Re: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: awc105 on August 27, 2023, 11:33:37 AM
Hi Mootspoints,

Based on a quick image search your boat has an MC-1 or R drive (many people call these "Pre-Alpha"), this was what came with the Mercruiser 898 or 228 package. I believe in 1980 the Alpha One came out, any Alpha One Gen One drive will mount to your gimbal no problem.

As far as the loose steering is concerned, that would require a replacement of the gimbal ring, originally mercury used a spline steering shaft, but later changed the design to a square shaft because the splines were not able to be adjusted and would wear out much quicker...

Hope that helps some.

-Andrew
Title: Re: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: Mootspoints on August 27, 2023, 12:07:25 PM
Okay, it looks like an MC-1, yes.
Title: Re: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: Plugcheck on August 28, 2023, 08:39:19 AM
Alphas and bravos have the same football cutout in the transom.    Nothing wrong with your current drive selection for that engine, just keep up with the maintenance.  If in need of a drive, SEI has drives for a reasonable price.    Not sure if they sell other transom components, you'd have to check
Title: Re: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: carlsoncvx18 on August 28, 2023, 02:18:43 PM
You will need a tramsom assembly from an alpha.   There is a kit to replace the steering arm on and gimbal ring. As replacing the tramsom assembly requires pulling the motor. But it sounds like your plans are to restore.  Which would be the time to do it.
Title: Re: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: demian5 on August 29, 2023, 05:39:49 PM
I was able to get a nice original MC1 gimbal ring and pin and lever from someone in Minnesota that parts out boats. His name is Jesse Helget on facebook and in the mercruiser groups on FB.  I replaced that and the steering cable in my 1979 CVX 16ss and its beautiful now.

I can give you his direct contact information if you message me and are looking to just repair whats in the boat.
Title: Re: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: Mootspoints on September 03, 2023, 07:40:32 AM
I was able to get a nice original MC1 gimbal ring and pin and lever from someone in Minnesota that parts out boats. His name is Jesse Helget on facebook and in the mercruiser groups on FB.  I replaced that and the steering cable in my 1979 CVX 16ss and its beautiful now.

I can give you his direct contact information if you message me and are looking to just repair whats in the boat.

Hey I?ll do that, thanks.
Title: Re: More help needed - Outdrive replacement options?
Post by: Mootspoints on September 03, 2023, 07:41:34 AM
You will need a tramsom assembly from an alpha.   There is a kit to replace the steering arm on and gimbal ring. As replacing the tramsom assembly requires pulling the motor. But it sounds like your plans are to restore.  Which would be the time to do it.

Already had the motor out once?. There?s a lot I should have done then in hindsight.  Still planning to pull it for the winter though.